[beyond_vision]

Originally Posted by Shaam

source of news ?
do u think these sources either western or pak media in unbiased?
do u think its not propagating anti islam ideology?
any authentic source other than this media ?

Source of news? Which source r u Reffering to?
No I certainly Don't think so.
Surely, They are doing so But we r also responsible in letting them do that and by doing unreasonable and emotional things.
Regarding what? That bad incidents are also linked with Talibaans? On top of my head, The incident of Daniel Pearl is coming in my mind. Wasn't he abducted and then killed by certain extremists or Talibans?

you are partially right.
Taliban in diff countries which are not in control of central command may have diff point of views and action plans but the word TALIBAN is reserved specially for people doing JIHAD in afghanistan against USA and NATO.
When we say if u wanna judge muslims dont look at todays muslim act but look at Quran and life of prophet means when we need to judge someone or group we should look at their leadership and creams. This women was in custody of Mulla Umer Mujahid and she explained how he and his men behaved with her. As far as bomb blast in Pakistan are concerned there are no such evidence that these are done by taliban except by media spokesmen or government who declare it after exact 5 min htat Taliban are behind it . There are prooofs that these things have been happening by some militants working for Black Water to unstable Pakistan just to denuclearify its defence and some other big games. i can suggest u some books if u willing to read and some videos where u can find the actual game which is being planned and u will have a better idea what is going on and why it is going on .

Hmmmm, That was the point I was trying to make also. Perhaps as u pointed out that the Talibans under Mullah Umer's Command are not violent ones but The Talibans who attacked Malala were surely violent ones. TTP accepted the responsability of that attack and warned that they would do it again if Malala survives by any chance.
The spokesperon of TTP clearly admitted that his group was behind this attack. This what he said :
"We carried out this attack. Anybody who speaks against us will be attacked in the same way."
"She was pro-West, she was speaking against Taliban and she was calling President Obama her idol,"
"She was young but she was promoting Western culture in Pashtun areas." Here is refernce of that article

http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-70...tack-on-Malala

So According to you, were these reasons enough to kill an innocent child? In My opinion No they were not, and killing an innocent child was brutality.
Further more, that begs the question that Whether TTP r also part of Talibans or not? I just did a google search and came upto that wikipedia article which says that:

"The Afghan Taliban and the Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan differ greatly in their history, leadership and goals although they share a common interpretation of Islam and are both predominantly Pashtun. The Afghan Taliban have no affiliation with the Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan and routinely deny any connection to the TTP. The New York Times quoted a spokesman for the Afghan Taliban stating that:

'We don't like to be involved with them, as we have rejected all affiliation with Pakistani Taliban fighters ... We have sympathy for them as Muslims, but beside that, there is nothing else between us'.
Referce: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban

So One thing is clear, TTP is not part of Afghan Talibans then the question raises that who r they then? and why they r using the tag of Talibans along their organisation? What are their purposes through all that? These are all the questions on which one needs to do a through research.
These were my thoughts regarding all that.!

 

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[Shaam]

Originally Posted by beyond_vision

Source of news? Which source r u Reffering to?
No I certainly Don't think so.
Surely, They are doing so But we r also responsible in letting them do that and by doing unreasonable and emotional things.
Regarding what? That bad incidents are also linked with Talibaans? On top of my head, The incident of Daniel Pearl is coming in my mind. Wasn't he abducted and then killed by certain extremists or Talibans?

Daniel Pearl : )
suppose u are in state of war and someone came to u disguised as reporter and u will know he is an agent like hmmm yeah remaond devis so u will catch him and then release him or as a general u will kill him. ? so that happened with daniel pearl ..... i know angelina jolie did great in the movie showed her innocence : )



http://www.globalresearch.ca/robert-...astermind/5116

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2...3fa_fact_mayer

Hmmmm, That was the point I was trying to make also. Perhaps as u pointed out that the Talibans under Mullah Umer's Command are not violent ones but The Talibans who attacked Malala were surely violent ones. TTP accepted the responsability of that attack and warned that they would do it again if Malala survives by any chance.
The spokesperon of TTP clearly admitted that his group was behind this attack. This what he said :
"We carried out this attack. Anybody who speaks against us will be attacked in the same way."
"She was pro-West, she was speaking against Taliban and she was calling President Obama her idol,"
"She was young but she was promoting Western culture in Pashtun areas." Here is refernce of that article

http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-70...tack-on-Malala

So According to you, were these reasons enough to kill an innocent child? In My opinion No they were not, and killing an innocent child was brutality.
Further more, that begs the question that Whether TTP r also part of Talibans or not? I just did a google search and came upto that wikipedia article which says that:

"The Afghan Taliban and the Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan differ greatly in their history, leadership and goals although they share a common interpretation of Islam and are both predominantly Pashtun. The Afghan Taliban have no affiliation with the Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan and routinely deny any connection to the TTP. The New York Times quoted a spokesman for the Afghan Taliban stating that:

'We don't like to be involved with them, as we have rejected all affiliation with Pakistani Taliban fighters ... We have sympathy for them as Muslims, but beside that, there is nothing else between us'.
Referce: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban

So One thing is clear, TTP is not part of Afghan Talibans then the question raises that who r they then? and why they r using the tag of Talibans along their organisation? What are their purposes through all that? These are all the questions on which one needs to do a through research.
These were my thoughts regarding all that.!

i have some other thing for u

http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-ne...n-malala-malik


so whats the truth : )


Listen Lady.... one will never get an idea what is actually happening if u only see these media reports. confused minds are their victory thats why i said read books where u can find verses and hadith about this age and what will happen what should we do u will be so clear that how it has been manipulated and what for ....


anyway
thanks for ur time and interest ....

i think this discussion goes a bit longer then it required . so cut it here and pray Allah that He make us understand truth soon,

 

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ایک تیرا ہجر جو بالوں میں سفیدی لایا
ایک تیرا عشق جو سینے میں جوان رہتا ہے

And Allah is All Enough For Me (Al-Quran)