[Hayyan_Memon]

As Salam O Alikum wR wB..

From Today im gonna Discuss here some Hard topics.. But First I want to clear one thing.. may be some pplz dont gonna like it.. but i can assure one thing that any thing which i'm going to discuss here is only from ALLAH's Quraan AND MOHAMMAD's (PBUH) FARMAAN.. NO KISSA NO KAHANI NO QOOL NO WAQIYA, NOT EVEN HALF AYAH OR HALF HADEED WIDOUT CONTENTS THAT MOSTLY PPLZ DO TO PROVE dere BELIVES AND IN REPLY EVERYTHING IS ACCEPTABLE THROUGH ALLAH's QURAAN AND MOHAMMAD's (PBUH) FARMAAN.

JAZAAK ALLAH SO THE FIRST TOPIC IS ON NIYAAZ IN ISLAM ONE OF MY FRIEND HERE SPECIALLY REQUESTED ME TO DISCUSS THIS ISSUE BECOZ OF THE MONTH OF MOHARRAM..


First The Meaning Of Niyaz

Niyaz is done on the occasion of the death of some saint or good person. Anyone who is considered to be a "Awliya Allah" by people. The intention in doing Niyaz is that the person for whom it is done will be pleased with the person who is doing it and after being pleased the saint will grant the needs of the asker or will solve his problem or will help him in the Akhirah. But all acts of servitude are for Allah alone. We should try to please him alone.


Now Some Proofs From Quraan
Allah has said in the Qur'an 6:162
"Truly my prayer and my service of sacrifice my life and my death are (all) for Allah the Cherisher of the Worlds"

"NOTE ABOVE WORD SERVICE OF SACRIFICE ONLY FOR ALLAH"

It is given in the Qur'an in no less than four different places 2:173 , 6:145 , 16:115 and 5:3
"Forbidden to you (for food) are: dead meat blood the flesh of swine and that on which hath been invoked the name of other than Allah"

Allah has told us in the Qur'an in Surah Zumar 39:3 that the Mushriks of Makkah who used to worship idols and do sacrifices for their idols used to say:
"Is it not to Allah that sincere devotion is due? But those who take for protectors other than Allah (say): "We only serve them in order that they may bring us nearer to Allah." "
Hence even they used to say that they do this only so that they(idols) would take them closer to Allah. The Mushriks of Makkah were considered wrong because of all this and were called "Kafirs" (rejectors) and "Mushriks" (those who associate partners with Allah). Since they were wrong then even we are wrong if we do that.

Neither our beloved Prophet nor the Sahaba ever did Niyaz. They understood and followed Islam much better than us. Isn't there a proof in this that if it was something good they would have surely done it.In the light of the above stated facts it can be concluded that doing Niyaz is wrong.

AND NOW FOR THOSE WHO EAT NIYAZ IN ABOVE MANNERS
Allah has said in Surah an Nisa 4:85
"Whoever recommends and helps a good cause becomes a partner therein: and whoever recommends and helps an evil cause shares in its burden"

NOTE: Now for the believer of Niyaz they first use to say that those Ayah was for Mushrikeen E Makka.. den My Question is Who were we before ISLAM ? ? ? QURAAn is not only for Mushrikeen E Makka it is for all Men and jins

The Second Thing they use to say that.. we use to do niyaz in the name of ALLAH.. den my questions is this why only on special days ? and some of dem use to say we use to do it in the name of ALLAH to give sawaab to those who are not between us.. and this is also wrong from ISLAM ( Later I WILL EXPLAIN THE WAYS OF SENDING SAWAAB TO THOSE WHO ARE NOT BETWEEN US THROUGH QURAAN AND HADEED)

JAZAAK ALLAH

 

[AYAZ]

AS SALAAM O ALAIKUM,

Hayyan yeh barey sensitive topics hie ais mei phir yeh hota hie ke wazahaat paish ki jaye tou phir bola jata hie ke wo weak HADEES hai Aur ais mei ab tek behass o mubasa chal raha hie For example :

Log pouchtey hie ke Kunde ki niyaz kyon di jati hie ?

Tou ais ka answer yeh hai ke : Kundey ki niyaz Hazrat Imam Jaffar Sadiq (R.A) ke liye ISAAL -E-SAWAAB hai aur Isaal-e-Sawaab Quraan aur Hadees sei sabit hai .

 

[Z_Zealous]

Originally Posted by Hayyan_Memon

As Salam O Alikum wR wB..

From Today im gonna Discuss here some Hard topics.. But First I want to clear one thing.. may be some pplz dont gonna like it.. but i can assure one thing that any thing which i'm going to discuss here is only from ALLAH's Quraan AND MOHAMMAD's (PBUH) FARMAAN.. NO KISSA NO KAHANI NO QOOL NO WAQIYA, NOT EVEN HALF AYAH OR HALF HADEED WIDOUT CONTENTS THAT MOSTLY PPLZ DO TO PROVE dere BELIVES AND IN REPLY EVERYTHING IS ACCEPTABLE THROUGH ALLAH's QURAAN AND MOHAMMAD's (PBUH) FARMAAN.

JAZAAK ALLAH SO THE FIRST TOPIC IS ON NIYAAZ IN ISLAM ONE OF MY FRIEND HERE SPECIALLY REQUESTED ME TO DISCUSS THIS ISSUE BECOZ OF THE MONTH OF MOHARRAM..


First The Meaning Of Niyaz

Niyaz is done on the occasion of the death of some saint or good person. Anyone who is considered to be a "Awliya Allah" by people. The intention in doing Niyaz is that the person for whom it is done will be pleased with the person who is doing it and after being pleased the saint will grant the needs of the asker or will solve his problem or will help him in the Akhirah. But all acts of servitude are for Allah alone. We should try to please him alone.


Now Some Proofs From Quraan
Allah has said in the Qur'an 6:162
"Truly my prayer and my service of sacrifice my life and my death are (all) for Allah the Cherisher of the Worlds"

"NOTE ABOVE WORD SERVICE OF SACRIFICE ONLY FOR ALLAH"

It is given in the Qur'an in no less than four different places 2:173 , 6:145 , 16:115 and 5:3
"Forbidden to you (for food) are: dead meat blood the flesh of swine and that on which hath been invoked the name of other than Allah"

Allah has told us in the Qur'an in Surah Zumar 39:3 that the Mushriks of Makkah who used to worship idols and do sacrifices for their idols used to say:
"Is it not to Allah that sincere devotion is due? But those who take for protectors other than Allah (say): "We only serve them in order that they may bring us nearer to Allah." "
Hence even they used to say that they do this only so that they(idols) would take them closer to Allah. The Mushriks of Makkah were considered wrong because of all this and were called "Kafirs" (rejectors) and "Mushriks" (those who associate partners with Allah). Since they were wrong then even we are wrong if we do that.

Neither our beloved Prophet nor the Sahaba ever did Niyaz. They understood and followed Islam much better than us. Isn't there a proof in this that if it was something good they would have surely done it.In the light of the above stated facts it can be concluded that doing Niyaz is wrong.

AND NOW FOR THOSE WHO EAT NIYAZ IN ABOVE MANNERS
Allah has said in Surah an Nisa 4:85
"Whoever recommends and helps a good cause becomes a partner therein: and whoever recommends and helps an evil cause shares in its burden"

NOTE: Now for the believer of Niyaz they first use to say that those Ayah was for Mushrikeen E Makka.. den My Question is Who were we before ISLAM ? ? ? QURAAn is not only for Mushrikeen E Makka it is for all Men and jins

The Second Thing they use to say that.. we use to do niyaz in the name of ALLAH.. den my questions is this why only on special days ? and some of dem use to say we use to do it in the name of ALLAH to give sawaab to those who are not between us.. and this is also wrong from ISLAM ( Later I WILL EXPLAIN THE WAYS OF SENDING SAWAAB TO THOSE WHO ARE NOT BETWEEN US THROUGH QURAAN AND HADEED)

JAZAAK ALLAH

Wa Alaekum Assalam
Hayyan Bhai Buhat hi Khoobsoorat Alfaz se ap ne is Khoobsoorat Topic per likha he
me to ankhne band kar k in sub baton per 200% agree karta hon ...
Ye Issue kafi important tha and is month k hawale se ap ne bayan kiya he
buhat acha laga
Logo ko Awairness honi chaiye warna log bus apne Baap dada k dakiya nosi tareeke
Apna kar bolte hen k ye hamara baap dada ka tareeka he is lie hum nhi chor sakte...


(Bhai Jan ap k is long Eassy ko mene pehlay Urdu me Convert kia)
(Google and other Dictionary ki madad se is ki Translation ki )
(Tab ja k sari bat mere Creative mind me bethi he )

Thank You for such a Great Sharing (y)

 

[Hayyan_Memon]

Originally Posted by AYAZ

AS SALAAM O ALAIKUM,

Hayyan yeh barey sensitive topics hie ais mei phir yeh hota hie ke wazahaat paish ki jaye tou phir bola jata hie ke wo weak HADEES hai Aur ais mei ab tek behass o mubasa chal raha hie For example :

Log pouchtey hie ke Kunde ki niyaz kyon di jati hie ?

Tou ais ka answer yeh hai ke : Kundey ki niyaz Hazrat Imam Jaffar Sadiq (R.A) ke liye ISAAL -E-SAWAAB hai aur Isaal-e-Sawaab Quraan aur Hadees sei sabit hai .

BEshak AYAZ.. Yehi baat main nay ki.. Jab Ayah Ka meaning hi Saaf hay Tau Wazahat Already ho chuki hay. ab baat Rahi Hadeed ki Tau Hadeed abhi is main shamil nahi its Only Quraan's Translation.. And Agar Niyaz Quraan Say Sabit hay.. Tau Beshak i will agree if someone can paste me some quranic verses.

Aur Haan Jab Hadeed Ki baat hoogi tau Sahee Bukhari Aur Sahee Muslim ki bhi aisi hadeed hain Jo Upar Wali Quraan ki Ayah ko Wazah karti hain.. phir main wo bhi inshaALLAH likhoonga..

Thats why i said every answer is acceptable Through ALLAH's Quraan and Mohammad's (PBUH) Farmaan.. Becoz we Follow Islam of ALLAH And His Prophet (PBUH)..

 

[Hayyan_Memon]

Originally Posted by Z_Zealous

Wa Alaekum Assalam
Hayyan Bhai Buhat hi Khoobsoorat Alfaz se ap ne is Khoobsoorat Topic per likha he
me to ankhne band kar k in sub baton per 200% agree karta hon ...
Ye Issue kafi important tha and is month k hawale se ap ne bayan kiya he
buhat acha laga
Logo ko Awairness honi chaiye warna log bus apne Baap dada k dakiya nosi tareeke
Apna kar bolte hen k ye hamara baap dada ka tareeka he is lie hum nhi chor sakte...


(Bhai Jan ap k is long Eassy ko mene pehlay Urdu me Convert kia)
(Google and other Dictionary ki madad se is ki Translation ki )
(Tab ja k sari bat mere Creative mind me bethi he )

Thank You for such a Great Sharing (y)

JAZAAK ALLAH ZUBAIB AND YOU KNOW ITS ON WHOM's REQUEST.. MAY ALLAH GUIDE US THE RIGHT PATH..

 

[Stollen Heart]

Good Topic

Baat asal men yeh hoti hey keh hum logon ka ilam itta zeyada nhi hota keh hum kisi bhi baat ki gehrai men khud jaa ke soch sken. So hum ko laazmi tore pe un logon ki tarf dekhna perta hey jin ke pass ilam hota hey,

Niyaz is done on the occasion of the death of some saint or good person. Anyone who is considered to be a "Awliya Allah" by people. The intention in doing Niyaz is that the person for whom it is done will be pleased with the person who is doing it and after being pleased the saint will grant the needs of the asker or will solve his problem or will help him in the Akhirah. But all acts of servitude are for Allah alone. We should try to please him alone.

Yeh baat sub pe laagu nhi hoti, Asal baat niyet ki hoti hey keh aap jo amal kerne ko jaa rhe hen is ke peeche aap ki niyet kiya hey, Log waisi bhi niyet rakhte hen jaisa ke u ne mention kiya hey, mager bohat se log aisi niyet nhi rakhte. Me ki apni jo niyet jo niyet hoti hey jub me kisi qaber ya mazar pe jaata hon to me Fateh perhta hon ur un logon ke ke liye bhi dua kerta hon jo is wabar men hote hen ur un logon ke liye bhi jo abhi zinda hote hen, Apne liye bhi to kerne builkul nhi bholta,

Aksar jub me Data Sahib jata hon ur wahan pe gareeb ur musafer logon ko dekhta hon to Chawlon ki eik deg un men taqseen kerwa deta hon, us ke peeche builkul niyet yeh nhi hoti keh jo Sahib e Qaber hey wo khush hoga ur me ko us se kuch mil jaeiga, Haan mujhe un masaakeen ur gareeb logon ko khana khilane ka sawab zaror Allah ke haan se milega kionkeh us ne wada kiya howa hey, So us apne sawab men me jis ko chahe shamil ker lon, jo zinda hen in ko bhi ur jo duniya se guzer gay hen in ko bhi,

Sawab kya hota hey? Is ki haqeeqat kiya hey? Yeh eik alag topic hey, Yahan just men asaan fahm men itta kahonga keh insan ko jub yaqeen hota hey keh is waqt wo Allah se jo bhi dua karega wo qabool hogi to apni dua men wo dosron ke liye bhi maang leta hey, un ke liye bhi jo duniya se jaa chuke hote hen ur un ke liye bhi jo is duniya men mojod hote hen,

"Forbidden to you (for food) are: dead meat blood the flesh of swine and that on which hath been invoked the name of other than Allah"

"Is it not to Allah that sincere devotion is due? But those who take for protectors other than Allah (say): "We only serve them in order that they may bring us nearer to Allah." "

"Whoever recommends and helps a good cause becomes a partner therein: and whoever recommends and helps an evil cause shares in its burden"

"Is it not to Allah that sincere devotion is due? But those who take for protectors other than Allah (say): "We only serve them in order that they may bring us nearer to Allah." "

Kuch musalman aise hen jo is baat pe yaqeen rakhte hen keh jo Sahb e Qaber hey wo sunta bhi hey dekhta bhi hey, ur qeuamat ke din wo in ko dozakh ki aag se bacha bhi le ga, Mager aise logon ki tadaad bohat kum hey jo is baat pe yaqeen rakhte hen,

Hum qurbani Allah hi ke naam ki dete hen, Koi faqeer aa jay to wo bhi Allah hi ka naam le ke maangta hey, so jo kum tadaad men hen ur Mushrikaana amaal kerte hen un ke liye hum ko dua kerna chaiye ur Allah ur Allah ke Rasool (Peace be upon him) ki baten un ko sunani chaiye, Ur khud koshish yehi kerna chaiye keh un ko galt sabit kerne pe nah be'zid ho jaein kionkeh Islami taleemaat dene ke liye "Hikmat" se kaam lena chaiye,

 

[Z_Zealous]

Originally Posted by Hayyan_Memon

JAZAAK ALLAH ZUBAIB AND YOU KNOW ITS ON WHOM's REQUEST.. MAY ALLAH GUIDE US THE RIGHT PATH..

Bhai jan baqi sub to thik he lakin ye ap ne mere nam ki achi khasi watt laga di he lolxx

 

[Hayyan_Memon]

Originally Posted by Stollen Heart

Good Topic

Baat asal men yeh hoti hey keh hum logon ka ilam itta zeyada nhi hota keh hum kisi bhi baat ki gehrai men khud jaa ke soch sken. So hum ko laazmi tore pe un logon ki tarf dekhna perta hey jin ke pass ilam hota hey,



Yeh baat sub pe laagu nhi hoti, Asal baat niyet ki hoti hey keh aap jo amal kerne ko jaa rhe hen is ke peeche aap ki niyet kiya hey, Log waisi bhi niyet rakhte hen jaisa ke u ne mention kiya hey, mager bohat se log aisi niyet nhi rakhte. Me ki apni jo niyet jo niyet hoti hey jub me kisi qaber ya mazar pe jaata hon to me Fateh perhta hon ur un logon ke ke liye bhi dua kerta hon jo is wabar men hote hen ur un logon ke liye bhi jo abhi zinda hote hen, Apne liye bhi to kerne builkul nhi bholta,

Aksar jub me Data Sahib jata hon ur wahan pe gareeb ur musafer logon ko dekhta hon to Chawlon ki eik deg un men taqseen kerwa deta hon, us ke peeche builkul niyet yeh nhi hoti keh jo Sahib e Qaber hey wo khush hoga ur me ko us se kuch mil jaeiga, Haan mujhe un masaakeen ur gareeb logon ko khana khilane ka sawab zaror Allah ke haan se milega kionkeh us ne wada kiya howa hey, So us apne sawab men me jis ko chahe shamil ker lon, jo zinda hen in ko bhi ur jo duniya se guzer gay hen in ko bhi,

Sawab kya hota hey? Is ki haqeeqat kiya hey? Yeh eik alag topic hey, Yahan just men asaan fahm men itta kahonga keh insan ko jub yaqeen hota hey keh is waqt wo Allah se jo bhi dua karega wo qabool hogi to apni dua men wo dosron ke liye bhi maang leta hey, un ke liye bhi jo duniya se jaa chuke hote hen ur un ke liye bhi jo is duniya men mojod hote hen,









Kuch musalman aise hen jo is baat pe yaqeen rakhte hen keh jo Sahb e Qaber hey wo sunta bhi hey dekhta bhi hey, ur qeuamat ke din wo in ko dozakh ki aag se bacha bhi le ga, Mager aise logon ki tadaad bohat kum hey jo is baat pe yaqeen rakhte hen,

Hum qurbani Allah hi ke naam ki dete hen, Koi faqeer aa jay to wo bhi Allah hi ka naam le ke maangta hey, so jo kum tadaad men hen ur Mushrikaana amaal kerte hen un ke liye hum ko dua kerna chaiye ur Allah ur Allah ke Rasool (Peace be upon him) ki baten un ko sunani chaiye, Ur khud koshish yehi kerna chaiye keh un ko galt sabit kerne pe nah be'zid ho jaein kionkeh Islami taleemaat dene ke liye "Hikmat" se kaam lena chaiye,

Jazaak ALLAH Brother For Sharing Your Knowlege.. Apnay Kafi batain batain.. Apnay Niyat ki baat ki Beshak.. I agree wid your Point.. But one thing jo mughe Ziyada Aziyat Deti hay wo yeh.. Ke aik cheez Quran nay mana kar di Saaf alfaaz main. Quraan nay kaha Sharaab Haraam hay.. Tau it meanz Haraam hay.. Matlab Jo DEEN nay diya WO LAY LAIN.. AUR JISS SAY BAAZ RAKHA US SAY BAAZ RAHAIN.. I HOPE U UNDERSTAND MY POINT..

NIYAT KI BAAT HAY.. FOR EXAMPLE APP KISSI GAREEB KI MADAD KARTAY HAIN.. APNI TASALLI KAR KE WO WAQAI HAQDAAR HAY.. BAAD MAIN APKO PATA CHALTA HAY KE WO JHOOTA THA.. WAHAN ALLAH APKI NIYAT DAIKHTA HAY ZAROOR.. BUT AIK KAAM SAY ALLAH NAY SAAF ALFAAZ MAIN MANA KAR DIYA AUR HUM WO KARAIN.. AUR PHIR HUM KAHAIN KE ALLAH NIYAT DAIKHTA HAY.. TAU Meray khayaal say yeh insaaf ki baat na hoogi..

ISSI BAAT KI EXPLAINATION MAIN NAY KI hay QURAAN ki Is AYAH main
Allah has said in Surah an Nisa 4:85
"Whoever recommends and helps a good cause becomes a partner therein: and whoever recommends and helps an evil cause shares in its burden"

AS MY PERSONAL OPINION IF SOMETHING IS CLEAR TO ME THROUGH QURAN THEN I WILL FOLLOW IT..

IN ANSWER EVERYTHING IS ACCEPTABLE THROUGH ALLAH's QURAAN AND MOHAMMAD's (PBUH) FARMAAN.. MAY ALLAH GUIDE US THE RIGHT PATH JAZAAK ALLAH

 

[AYAZ]

Quran Paak mei Niyaz ko mana nahi kara kahi bhi. Hayyan nie jo di hie reference wo aus sei matlab out kar rahey hie ke ais sei yeh sabit hota hie ? clear mana nahi hai hum aus sei khud sei meaning out kar rahey hei ke aesa hei tou ais ka matlab yeh hie.

Aur hayyan har topic ka alag sei thread banana. Aik hi thread mei sub topic dalo gei tou wo mixup hojaey ga

 

[Hayyan_Memon]

Originally Posted by AYAZ

Quran Paak mei Niyaz ko mana nahi kara kahi bhi. Hayyan nie jo di hie reference wo aus sei matlab out kar rahey hie ke ais sei yeh sabit hota hie ? clear mana nahi hai hum aus sei khud sei meaning out kar rahey hei ke aesa hei tou ais ka matlab yeh hie.

Aur hayyan har topic ka alag sei thread banana. Aik hi thread mei sub topic dalo gei tou wo mixup hojaey ga

JAZAAK ALLAH AYAZ..
PLEASE IF YOU CAN GIVE ME MEANING OF THIS AYAH I WILL BE VERY THANKFUL

"Forbidden to you (for food) are: dead meat blood the flesh of swine and that on which hath been invoked the name of other than Allah"

I NEVER SAID NIYAZ IS HARAAM.. I SAID NIYAZ IS FOR ALLAH NOT FOR ANYONE ELSE ON ANY WALI"ALLAH OR ANY AULIYAH. OR ANY SPECIAL DAY WHICH ARE RECOMMENDED ON THEM..JAZAAK ALLAH

IN ANSWER EVERYTHING IS ACCEPTABLE THROUGH ALLAH's QURAAN AND MOHAMMAD's (PBUH) FARMAAN.