[Hayyan_Memon]

As Salam O Alikum wR wB
As per Brother AYAZ said in my last Thread on Masla E Niyaz that ISHAAL Sawaab is Allowed in Islam and my reply was indeed ishaal e sawab is allowed but through the rules and regulation taught US by QURAAN and Hadeed. And niyaz is not a part of that ishal e sawab. today im going to explain it through ALLAH's QURAAN and PROPHET's (PBUH) FARMAAN.


Surat Al-Baqarah (The Cow) - سورة البقرة 2:134

“This is a people that have passed away; they shall have what they earned and you shall have what you earn, and you shall not be called upon to answer for what they did.”


Surat Al-Baqarah (The Cow) - سورة البقرة 2:141

That is a nation which has passed on. It will have [the consequence of] what it earned, and you will have what you have earned. And you will not be asked about what they used to do.


Surat Fuşşilat (Explained in Detail) - سورة فصلت 41:46

Whoever does righteousness - it is for his [own] soul; and whoever does evil [does so] against it. And your Lord is not ever unjust to [His] servants.

The Qur’an clearly states that each and every human being will be judged and compensated (tormented or rewarded) for his own deeds performed during his life. So each individual will reap the harvest of what he had sown in this world.

To judge if a particular action constitutes an innovation in religion (or Biddah) we must look towards authentic Hadith and find proof there. In this regard, not a single Hadith can be found which mentions Quran-Khawani (recitation of the Qur’an) and Esaal-e-Sawab (transfer of the reward). As a Muslim, we must have belief in the fact that the Qur’an is nothing more than a guiding book and only those people who are alive can find guidance for themselves, and therefore, salvation in the life after death. Recitation of the Qur’an for a dead person cannot make any difference in his balance sheet of sins and good deeds.

This particular issue is directly related to basic Islamic beliefs, one of which is the absoluteness of the death of a person and the fact that the soul cannot leave Barzakh, neither can we alleviate the punishment of a soul in Barzakh. As Islam was perfected 14 centuries ago, we cannot accommodate the practice of Esaal-e-Sawab as a part of true Islamic practices

The deeds that can benefit a person after his death are outlined in the following Sahih Ahadith:

Anas Bin Malik reports: Allah’s Apostle said, “When carried to his grave, a dead person is followed by three, two of which return (after his burial) and one remains with him: his relative, his property, and his deeds follow him; relatives and his property go back while his deeds remain with him.” [Sahih Bukhari - Volume 8, Book 76. Hadith 521]

Abu Huraira (RA) reported Allah’s Messenger (SAW) as saying: When a man dies, his acts come to an end, but three, recurring charity, or knowledge (by which people) benefit, or a pious son, who prays for him (for the deceased). [Sahih Muslim - Book 13, Hadith 4005]

Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (SAW)) as saying: He who called (people) to righteousness, there would be reward (assured) for him like the rewards of those who adhered to it, without their rewards being diminished in any respect. And he who called (people) to error, he shall have to carry (the burden) of its sin, like those who committed it, without their sins being diminished in any respect. [Sahih Muslim - Book 34, Hadith 6470]


It is obvious from the above-mentioned sayings of Prophet Muhammad (SAW) that a dead person can only benefit from the following, provided he died as a Muslim:

1) His/her deeds that he performed during his lifetime
2) Sadaqa-e-Jaaria (continuing charity)
3) If he disseminated the truth to people around him and therefore helped them to lead a better life in this world and in the Hereafter.
4) If the deceased person’s children prays for forgiveness, provided the deceased did not die on Shirk.

It is crystal clear that the best one can do is to pray for forgiveness of a parent, or to complete a charitable project that the deceased had intended to do but had been unable to accomplish in his lifetime. In this regard, the concept of Sadaqa-e-Jaaria should be elaborated, since the explanations given by our clergymen are either inadequate or totally incorrect.

NOW LETS COME TO SADQA E JAARIA (CONTINUING CHARITY)

There are two types of Sadaqa-e-Jaaria proven through the Qur’an and Sahih Hadith:

1) Good deeds done by the deceased during his life that will continually benefit other people. For instance, if he or she had built a mosque, planted a tree or dug a well.
2) Sawab of Sadaqa-e-Jaaria is also given to the dead against the intention of a good deed, which he or she planned during his or her life but death took him and his children then completed the project. (This is called Mannat or ‘vow made to Allah.’ It is important to clarify this concept.

The concept of the second type of Sadaqa-e-Jaaria cannot be extended to reciting the Qur’an for the dead, or saying Nawafil prayers for the deceased, or fasting with the intention of invoking Allah and requesting Him to transferthe Sawab (reward) to the dead. It is the sole prerogative of Allah to give reward or to punish a person for his or her deeds and no one else, human or angel, has the authority to amend the records that contain the details of a person’s acts in this world (the amaal-nama). The only exception in this case shall be granted to Prophet Muhammad (SAW) – or other pious Muslims – on the Day of Judgement when he will be able to request Allah (perform Shifa’at) for the salvation of Momineen. We find in other authentic ahadith, like Sahih Bukhari, Book 76, Hadith 584, that those Muslims who commit Biddah (innovate new religious practices) will not be able to seek the Shifa’at of the Prophet on the Day of Judgement.

What needs to be understood is that all the deeds mentioned in [Sahih Muslim – Book 13, Hadith 4005] are added to the book-of-deeds after the death of a human and Esaal-e-Sawab through recitation of Qur’an is mentioned nowhere. Another important thing, which should be clear to the readers is that children are not allowed to pray for the forgiveness of their parents or their relatives if they died on Shirk (see Surah Taubah 9:84 and 9:113).

The concept of Esaal-e-Sawab is promoted by sects and their molvis who get paid for reciting the Qur’an or for arranging the services of different Madrasa children for this purpose. Another short-cut adopted by many so-called Muslims these days is to arrange for periodic monthly payments (called Wazeefah) to a Madrasa. Any number of recitations of the Quran can be bought against this apparent act of charity. Whether the Quran was actually recited that many times by the Madrasa students is a matter never looked into. Another outcome of these Esaal-e-Sawab recitations is the emergence of the “Bismillah” Qur’an, in which the Bismillah is recitedrepeatedly. This is evidence of the inherent tendency of Biddah to proliferate and reach any extreme, all in the name of Sawab (reward).

MANNAT OR VOW (PROMISE MADE TO ALLAH)

We find in Sahih hadith that if a person makes a vow to Allah, e.g. voluntarily fasting for a month, and then dies before fulfilling this vow, it is seen as a debt towards Allah and the deceased’s children should fulfill it. However, often the concept of mannat or vow is mixed up with Esaal e Sawab and the following riwayat of Sahih Bukhari is quoted in support of Esaal e Saawab:

Narrated Ibn ‘Abbas: The mother of Sad bin ‘Ubada died in his absence. He said, “O Allah’s Apostle! My mother died in my absence; will it be of any benefit for her if I give Sadaqa on her behalf?” The Prophet said, “Yes,” Sad said, “I make you a witness that I gave my garden called Al Makhraf in charity on her behalf.” [Sahih Bukhari, Book 51, Hadith 19)

However, when we analyse the above hadith in the light of other Sahih Ahadith, such as the two copied below, we learn that the mother of Sad bin 'Ubada (RA) also had an unfinished vow/mannat thus Muhammad(SAW) ordered him to give charity on her behalf.

Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: Sad bin Ubada consulted Allah's Apostle saying, "My mother died and she had an unfulfilled vow." The Prophet said, "Fulfill it on her behalf." [Sahih Bukhari, Book 51, Hadith 23]

Narrated Sa’id bin ‘Ubada Al-Ansari: that he consulted the Prophet about a vow that had been made by his mother who died without fulfilling it. The Prophet gave his verdict that he should fulfill it on her behalf. The verdict became Sunna (i.e. the Prophet’s tradition). [Sahih Bukhari, Book 78, Hadith 689]

(Please also see Sahih Bukhari 29:77, 31:174 and 92:418 on the issue of making a vow to Allah).

What must be understood here is that Esaal e Sawab is voluntary charity or good deeds performed on behalf of the dead which is completely different from mannat/vow and so we cannot generalise this concept and perform voluntary good deeds on behalf of the dead and transfer the sawab to the dead’s account.

NOW COME TO SOYEM (3rd day after death), CHALEESWAN (40th day after death), BARSI (Death Anniversary)

It is a common practice in many Muslim communities, especially in Pakistan and India, to gather together the family on the 3rd, 10th and 40th day after the death or the death anniversary of a family relative. Copies of the Qur’an are handed to the attendees and they are asked to recite as much as they can, with the intention of transferring the reward of the recitation to the dead. This is followed by a family feast, the lavishness of which depends on the financial circumstances of the family. Sometimes, due to the demands made by society, people even borrow money to arrange for the feast. There is no precedence of this in the teachings or actions of Prophet Muhammad (SAW) and his noble Sahaba (RA), who were the best Momineen. In fact, the verses and ahadith quoted above tell us that Allah has not given us the right to make any amendments to the sum total of rewards/sins collected by a person in his lifetime. Thus, Soyem and Chaleeswan are innovated practices (Biddah) and Muslims must refrain from these.

There is also the issue of eating the food cooked on the day. Since the food is cooked with the niyyah (intention) of the reward going to the dead, the food becomes associated to the dead person. According to the Qu’ran 2:173, 5:3, 6:145 and 16:115,(Which i have posted in the last reply on the thread Masla e Niyaz) any slaughtered animal or food on which any name other than Allah’s has been taken, or which is associated to anyone other than Allah, is forbidden for consumption. Therefore, Muslims must boycott such events and also refrain from eating the food cooked on the day.

He hath forbidden you only carrion, and blood, and swineflesh, and that which hath been immolated to (the name of) any other than Allah. But he who is driven by necessity, neither craving nor transgressing, it is no sin for him. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. [Translation by Pickthal, Al-Baqara 2:173]

He has forbidden you only the Maitah (dead animals), and blood, and the flesh of swine, and that which is slaughtered as a sacrifice for others than Allah (or has been slaughtered for idols, on which Allah’s Name has not been mentioned while slaughtering). But if one is forced by necessity without wilful disobedience nor transgressing due limits, then there is no sin on him. Truly, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. [Translated by Mohsin Khan, Al-Baqara 2:173]


The best we can do for the deceased, if they die in the state of Emaan, is to pray for their forgiveness. This is done through participating in their funeral prayer and by sending duas to Allah for the dead person’s maghfirat (salvation). We cannot do any more than this and we shouldn’t do any more than this. All other rituals, which have become an integral part of the ‘commemoration of the dead’ ceremony, are innovated practices.

NOTE: THE THINGS WE DO FOR ISHAL E SAWAB HERE IN PAKISTAN & INDIA IF ISHAL E SAWAB IS ALLOWED BY THAT THEN I THINK EVERY RICH PERSON WILL BE IN HEAVEN AND EVERY POOR PERSON WILL BURN IN HELL. BECAUSE BEFORE DEATH RICH PERSON TRASFER SOME OF MONEY ON THE ACCOUNT OF GIVING ISHAL E SAWAB AFTER HIS DEATH. IT IS MY REQUEST TO ALL BROTHER AND SISTERS THAT IF WE CAN READ AND LEARN INSTEAD OF LISTENING TO OTHERS ISLAM IS A VERY EASY RELIGION TO UNDERSTAND

IN ANSWER EVERY THING IS ACCEPTABLE THROUGH ALLAH's QURAAN AND MOHAMMAD's (PBUH) FARMAAN.

AS SALAM O ALIKUM WR WB

 

[Hayyan_Memon]

Brothers and Sisters! Allah Ta'ala says in Surah al-Anfal (8:20-24):

"O you who believe! Obey Allah and His Messenger, and turn not away from him - the Messenger Muhammad, while you are hearing. And be not like those who say: We have heard but they hear not. Verily! The worst of moving living creatures in the Sight of Allah are the deaf and the dumb, those who understand not - the disbelievers. Had Allah known of any good in them, He would indeed have made them listen, even if He had made them listen, they would but have turned away, averse to the truth.

O you who believe! Answer Allah by obeying Him and His Messenger, when he calls you to that which will give you life, and know that Allah comes in between a person and his heart - that is, he prevents an evil person to decide anything. And verily to Him you shall all be gathered."

 

[Ragnarok]

so very TRUE and theres nothing to be denied according to Hadees and Qur'an where Allah Subhana Tala cleared everything but unfortunatly so many tribes didnt get yet. (no offense though)
indeed aisaal-e-sawaab jaiz hai lekin niyaaz or aisaal-e-sawab ka mushtarka adaigi koi jaiz ya kisi bhi sifut mein sath khadey namazi jese nahi. niyaz to rasoom jiski examples little si hai according to history mein isko koi behes to nahi banauga lekin itna clear hai jese firtrah zakaat or sudka allah ki khushnoodi k liye hum pe hukum huwa hai adyegi k liye usi tarha later niyaz ka word mohtram bana k nikala gaya apne other belief k liye un buzurguwaan k naam pe jinki hum respect kertey hai but some of us went through or waha hum usi niyaz mein apne kisi marhoom aziz ka esaal-e-sawaab jordetey hain yeh common hai hamari niji basti or small towns mein.
thank you
mene generally hayyan ki baat mein agree apne ap ko batana chaha ager is mein koi bata hai wese to mein nahi smjhta k upper itni long details mein jo Qur'an or hadees se reffered hai nahi honi chahye lekin mere pas reasons isi Qur'an or Sahee bukhari ki kitaab se hain jo clear ker sakta hu lekin abhi sirf title mein yhi kaha or detail hayyan de chuka hai.
thanks again and no offense against any believer.

 

[AYAZ]

Hayyan the reference of the ayaat you have given in English, Let me try translation in urdu for that:

1) Jo loog passed away hogaye hai wo jesa karey ga aus ke amaal aus ke sar. Aur aus ke amaal ka jawab tum ko nahi dena parey ga .

Dosra ayaat ka urdu tarjuma :

2) Jo nation passed away ho chuki hie aun ke amaal aun ke sar aur koiye dosra aus ke amaal ka jawab dei nahi .

So none of the above ayaat clearly said that Niyaz is not allowed and you can't send Isaal-e-Sawab to anyone?

And for Niyaz Tou niyaz dar haqeeqat Fatiha hei aur Isaal -e- sawab hai jo ke Quran sei sabit hai.

None of the above reference clearly said that Niyaz is forbidden?. Aap nie jo reference diye aus mei kahi mana nahi kara gaya ke niyaz nahi karo jesa mei nie uper meaning translate bhi kari hie.

Aab Isaal-e-sawaab per yeh cheez yaha share karna chahonga.



And please Har masley ke liye alag thread banao ab ais mei tum nie CHaliswan ka bhi sath mei kardiya hie tou har masley ka alag thread banaya jaye takey jawab deney mei aur read karney mei asani rahey aur phir ausi ke mutabiq jawab bhi dei sakey . Tou kindly Chaliswan ke aur deegar maslo ka alag alag thread banaye takey aus ke according jawab diya ja sakey .

Thanks
Jazak ALLAH Khair

 

[Hayyan_Memon]

Originally Posted by AYAZ

Hayyan the reference of the ayaat you have given in English, Let me try translation in urdu for that:

1) Jo loog passed away hogaye hai wo jesa karey ga aus ke amaal aus ke sar. Aur aus ke amaal ka jawab tum ko nahi dena parey ga .

Dosra ayaat ka urdu tarjuma :

2) Jo nation passed away ho chuki hie aun ke amaal aun ke sar aur koiye dosra aus ke amaal ka jawab dei nahi .

So none of the above ayaat clearly said that Niyaz is not allowed and you can't send Isaal-e-Sawab to anyone?

And for Niyaz Tou niyaz dar haqeeqat Fatiha hei aur Isaal -e- sawab hai jo ke Quran sei sabit hai.

None of the above reference clearly said that Niyaz is forbidden?. Aap nie jo reference diye aus mei kahi mana nahi kara gaya ke niyaz nahi karo jesa mei nie uper meaning translate bhi kari hie.

Aab Isaal-e-sawaab per yeh cheez yaha share karna chahonga.



And please Har masley ke liye alag thread banao ab ais mei tum nie CHaliswan ka bhi sath mei kardiya hie tou har masley ka alag thread banaya jaye takey jawab deney mei aur read karney mei asani rahey aur phir ausi ke mutabiq jawab bhi dei sakey . Tou kindly Chaliswan ke aur deegar maslo ka alag alag thread banaye takey aus ke according jawab diya ja sakey .

Thanks
Jazak ALLAH Khair

As Salam O Alikum wR. wB
First of all Jazaak ALLAH brother FOr your nice Sharing. First you quoted Urdu Translation of the AYAH i have pasted in English and u said there is nothing about ishaal e Sawaab in this Ayah..

i think you dont read the proper detail description and detail after that AYAH.. There is a Question for You Please i hope you will surely answer it
If ALLAH said " Jo Loog Is duniya Say Chalay Gayy Unke Amaal unke Saath Aur Tumharay AMAAL tumharay Saath. Aur tum SAy unke Baray main SAWAAL nahi kiya jay gaa" What is the meaning of this ? in proper URDU traslation.
Ab main Urdu main Likhta hon Zahir Si baat hay Jab ALLAH baar Baar aik Hi cheez ko bata Raha Hay Quraan main Kai Jagah Ke Jo Loog is duniya Say chalay gayy Unke Baray main Tum Say SAWAAL nahi kiya Jayy ga Tau Iska Matlab yeh howa Ke Unke Amaal Namay Close ho chukay hain.. Wo jo is duniya main Kar Gayy wo Unke AMAAL thay.. Ab jo tum Kar Rahay hoo Wo tumharay AMAAL hain.. APP KAISAY KAH SAKTAY HOO KE YEH AYAH RELATED NAHI ? AUR AGAR APP IN AYAH ki TAFSEER READ KAROO Aur AGAR TAFSEER IBNE KATHIR KA mmain Refference Doon. Jo apko Khud hi baat clear Hoo jay gii...

AB DOSRI IMPORTANT BAAT. MAIN YEHI CHAH RAHA THA KE YAHAN PAR KISSI SPECIAL SECT YA FIRKAY KI BAAT NA HOO.. ISSI WAJAH SAY MAIN NAY KAHA KE EVERY THING IS ACCEPTABLE THROUGH ALLAH's QURAAN AND MOHAMMAD's PBUH FARMAAN.
Apnay Jo Kunday Wali Discription Di hay Main nay Wo completely Read ki hay.. Bohat Achi Discription hay MashaALLAH. But Sorry to Say ke Us main mughe Sirf Aik Hadeed ke Ilawa Aur Na Koi Hadeed Nazar Aii na Koi Quraan ki Ayah Ka Refference Haan Bohat Saray Alim Aur Mufties and IMAAM's ke QOOL Zaroor nazar ayy.. AUR jo Hadeed Apnay REFFER ki hay
Meri Aik Guzarish Hay Aik DAfa ussi HAdeed ko App Khud Sahe bukhari Say Aur Sahee Muslim Say Zaroor Daikh lain.. ke Wahan Actual Likha kiya hay aur Imam Bukhari & Imam Muslim nay Uski Explanation kaisay ki hay.. Wo Hadeed main Apni Thread main Pahlay hi Mention kar chuka hon. Aur Yeh bhi Mention Kar chuka hon ke Loog Us Hadeed main ammendment kar ke Kiss tarah Usko Ishaal E Sawaab ke liye Paish Kartay hain.. Agar app Aik dafa khud Read kar Lain Tau i think apke Shak O Shubhaat door ho jain.. Wo Hadeed Mannat par Hay NIYAZ NAZRANAY PAR NAHI..

Hope App Upar kiye meray Sawalaat ka Zaroor Answer Daingay..
ALLAH HUMAIN DEEN KO SAHI TARAH SAMAJNAY KI TOFEEQ ATA FARMAY..

JAWAAB MAIN HAR WOO CHEEZ TASLEEM KI JAY GI JO ALLAH KE QURAAN YA NABI (SAW) KE FARMAAN SAY HOO..
JAZAAK ALLAH

 

[AYAZ]

Originally Posted by Hayyan_Memon

As Salam O Alikum wR. wB
First of all Jazaak ALLAH brother FOr your nice Sharing. First you quoted Urdu Translation of the AYAH i have pasted in English and u said there is nothing about ishaal e Sawaab in this Ayah..

i think you dont read the proper detail description and detail after that AYAH.. There is a Question for You Please i hope you will surely answer it
If ALLAH said " Jo Loog Is duniya Say Chalay Gayy Unke Amaal unke Saath Aur Tumharay AMAAL tumharay Saath. Aur tum SAy unke Baray main SAWAAL nahi kiya jay gaa" What is the meaning of this ? in proper URDU traslation.
Ab main Urdu main Likhta hon Zahir Si baat hay Jab ALLAH baar Baar aik Hi cheez ko bata Raha Hay Quraan main Kai Jagah Ke Jo Loog is duniya Say chalay gayy Unke Baray main Tum Say SAWAAL nahi kiya Jayy ga Tau Iska Matlab yeh howa Ke Unke Amaal Namay Close ho chukay hain.. Wo jo is duniya main Kar Gayy wo Unke AMAAL thay.. Ab jo tum Kar Rahay hoo Wo tumharay AMAAL hain.. APP KAISAY KAH SAKTAY HOO KE YEH AYAH RELATED NAHI ? AUR AGAR APP IN AYAH ki TAFSEER READ KAROO Aur AGAR TAFSEER IBNE KATHIR KA mmain Refference Doon. Jo apko Khud hi baat clear Hoo jay gii...

AB DOSRI IMPORTANT BAAT. MAIN YEHI CHAH RAHA THA KE YAHAN PAR KISSI SPECIAL SECT YA FIRKAY KI BAAT NA HOO.. ISSI WAJAH SAY MAIN NAY KAHA KE EVERY THING IS ACCEPTABLE THROUGH ALLAH's QURAAN AND MOHAMMAD's PBUH FARMAAN.
Apnay Jo Kunday Wali Discription Di hay Main nay Wo completely Read ki hay.. Bohat Achi Discription hay MashaALLAH. But Sorry to Say ke Us main mughe Sirf Aik Hadeed ke Ilawa Aur Na Koi Hadeed Nazar Aii na Koi Quraan ki Ayah Ka Refference Haan Bohat Saray Alim Aur Mufties and IMAAM's ke QOOL Zaroor nazar ayy.. AUR jo Hadeed Apnay REFFER ki hay
Meri Aik Guzarish Hay Aik DAfa ussi HAdeed ko App Khud Sahe bukhari Say Aur Sahee Muslim Say Zaroor Daikh lain.. ke Wahan Actual Likha kiya hay aur Imam Bukhari & Imam Muslim nay Uski Explanation kaisay ki hay.. Wo Hadeed main Apni Thread main Pahlay hi Mention kar chuka hon. Aur Yeh bhi Mention Kar chuka hon ke Loog Us Hadeed main ammendment kar ke Kiss tarah Usko Ishaal E Sawaab ke liye Paish Kartay hain.. Agar app Aik dafa khud Read kar Lain Tau i think apke Shak O Shubhaat door ho jain.. Wo Hadeed Mannat par Hay NIYAZ NAZRANAY PAR NAHI..

Hope App Upar kiye meray Sawalaat ka Zaroor Answer Daingay..
ALLAH HUMAIN DEEN KO SAHI TARAH SAMAJNAY KI TOFEEQ ATA FARMAY..

JAWAAB MAIN HAR WOO CHEEZ TASLEEM KI JAY GI JO ALLAH KE QURAAN YA NABI (SAW) KE FARMAAN SAY HOO..
JAZAAK ALLAH

AS SALAAM O ALAIKUM,

Main pehli baat ka jawab deita ho aap ko . First aap nie kaha ke

" Jo Loog Is duniya Say Chalay Gayy Unke Amaal unke Saath Aur Tumharay AMAAL tumharay Saath. Aur tum SAy unke Baray main SAWAAL nahi kiya jay gaa"

Tou bhai yaha kaha mana kara hei ke ISAAL -E- SAWAB nahi kar saktey? Means Ager qayamat ke din
hum sei hamarey amaal namey ke barey mei pouch gaj hogei aur kisi dosrey ki nahi tou ais sei ISAAL -E- SAWAB kia kiya relation banta hie ?

Dosri baat jo aap ney kari

Matlab yeh howa Ke Unke Amaal Namay Close ho chukay hain.. Wo jo is duniya main Kar Gayy wo Unke AMAAL thay.. Ab jo tum Kar Rahay hoo Wo tumharay AMAAL hain.

Ager koiye Quran shareef Masjid mei rakhwata hei tou jub tek aus Quran shareef sei loog parheinge loog aus ka ajar oo sawab aus ko milta rahey ga no matter wo zinda ho ya mar gaya yeh tou understood baat hie. Naik baat aap pehlao gei aur aus per amal karey koiye tou jub tek wo aus per amal karta rahey aus ko aus ka sawab milta rahey ga chaiye aap zinda ho ya mar gaye tuo phir account kaha sei close howa aur ager account close hogaya tou phir jo mar jata hie phir aus ke liye magfirat ki dua kyon ki jati hie ?

Isaal-e-sawab ka intezar kartey hai :



Naik kamo mei sabqat lei jana chaiye:


Aap keh rahey hie ke Hadees Shareef Main amendment kar ke dei di ap ke pass proof ho authentic tou paish karein aur dosri baat ap nei jo uper aiyaat paish kari hie aus sei bhi tou aap meaning out nikal rahey ho aus mei tou kahi nahi likha ke Isaal-e-sawab mana hie ? ya niyaz nahi kar saktey?


Aur phir ek baar mei yeh line repeat kar raha ho :

Niyaz dar haqeeqat Fatiha hei aur Isaal -e- sawab hai jo ke Quran sei sabit hai.



Ais thread main meri taref sei replies apna nazariya paish karna hie aur kisi ki dil azari nahi .

Shukria
Jazak ALLAH Khair.

 

[Hayyan_Memon]

Originally Posted by AYAZ

AS SALAAM O ALAIKUM,

Main pehli baat ka jawab deita ho aap ko . First aap nie kaha ke


Tou bhai yaha kaha mana kara hei ke ISAAL -E- SAWAB nahi kar saktey? Means Ager qayamat ke din
hum sei hamarey amaal namey ke barey mei pouch gaj hogei aur kisi dosrey ki nahi tou ais sei ISAAL -E- SAWAB kia kiya relation banta hie ?

Dosri baat jo aap ney kari

Ager koiye Quran shareef Masjid mei rakhwata hei tou jub tek aus Quran shareef sei loog parheinge loog aus ka ajar oo sawab aus ko milta rahey ga no matter wo zinda ho ya mar gaya yeh tou understood baat hie. Naik baat aap pehlao gei aur aus per amal karey koiye tou jub tek wo aus per amal karta rahey aus ko aus ka sawab milta rahey ga chaiye aap zinda ho ya mar gaye tuo phir account kaha sei close howa aur ager account close hogaya tou phir jo mar jata hie phir aus ke liye magfirat ki dua kyon ki jati hie ?

Isaal-e-sawab ka intezar kartey hai :



Naik kamo mei sabqat lei jana chaiye:


Aap keh rahey hie ke Hadees Shareef Main amendment kar ke dei di ap ke pass proof ho authentic tou paish karein aur dosri baat ap nei jo uper aiyaat paish kari hie aus sei bhi tou aap meaning out nikal rahey ho aus mei tou kahi nahi likha ke Isaal-e-sawab mana hie ? ya niyaz nahi kar saktey?


Aur phir ek baar mei yeh line repeat kar raha ho :

Niyaz dar haqeeqat Fatiha hei aur Isaal -e- sawab hai jo ke Quran sei sabit hai.



Ais thread main meri taref sei replies apna nazariya paish karna hie aur kisi ki dil azari nahi .

Shukria
Jazak ALLAH Khair.

As Salam O Alikum wR wB
Meray khayaal say App Nay meri Thread ko Achi tarah REad nahi kiya.. Main nay kahin yeh Nahi likha ke Ishaal E Sawaab Mana Hayy.. Main nay likha hay Ishaal E Sawaab Jaiz hay But Uske Rules and Regulation hain Jo Humain Hadeed Say Prove Hotay hain..

Pahli Baat apnay Ki Jo Ayah Ki Misaal Ab Zara Khul kar Main Baat karta hon.. QURAN kiya hay ? ALLAH ki Kitaab.. Kiss Liye Bheeji Gaii ? Takay Logoon ko Guidance Mil Sakay Deen ke BAray main.. Matlab Zinda Logoon ko Guidance Mil sakay.. Ya Phir apke Khayaal say Jo Guzar Gay hain Unko bhi Guidance ki Zaroorat hay ?.. Aik Banda Apni Zindagi Main Hi AMAAL kar ke Guzarta hay naa ? Tum Say uske Baray main Nahi poocha Jay ga Ka kiya matlab hay ? Tafseer Ibne Kathir Say iski explaination apko Detail main Mil jay gi..

Dosri Baat apnay Shayad meray Ishaal E Sawaab Ke 4 Points Nahi Read kiye Jo ke Hadeed Say Sabit hain Aur main Apni Thread main Day chuka hon.. Apnay Jo Dosri Baat explain ki Hay ke Aik banda Quraan Rakhwata hay MAsjid main Jab tak Wo Quraan PArha Jata hay usko SAwaab Milta Rahta hay BEshak.. Yehi bat main Apnni Thread Main explain kar Chuka hon.. Isko SAdqa E Jariya Kahtay hain Jo Insaan Apni Zindagi main Kar Ke Jayy Uska SAwaab uske Marnay ke Baad bhi usko Milta Rahta hay.. Aur Yeh Quraan Aur HAdeed Say Sabit Hay.. Issi Tarah Kissi banday Nay Koi Kunwaan Khudwa Diya Uska SAWAAB usko Uski Death ke Baad bhi milta Rahay gaa..

Main Ab Zara Dobara Say Repeat Karta hon Shayad Yeh Hadeed Apko Nazar Nahi Aii Meri Thread main.

Abu Huraira (RA) reported Allah’s Messenger (SAW) as saying: When a man dies, his acts come to an end, but three, recurring charity, or knowledge (by which people) benefit, or a pious son, who prays for him (for the deceased). [Sahih Muslim - Book 13, Hadith 4005]

Is HAdeed Say Jo Cheezain SAbit hain Wo main Qoute Karta hon AGAR Ghalat karoon tau mughe Please clear kar dijiye ga..
1) Wo Naik Kaam Aur AMAL JO MArnay Walay nay Apni Zindagi main kiya
2) SAdqa E Jariaa
3) Agar Usnay Apni Zindagi main Loogoon ko Aisa Ilm Diya Ke Jiss SAy wo Apni Bahtar Zindagi Guzaar Sakain Deen Aur Duniya ke Lehaaz Say Uska SAwaab uske Marnay ke baad bhi Usko Milta Rahay ga Jab tak Uskay Ilm Say Loog Surkh Rooh Hotay Rahaingay
4) Agar Usnay Apni Zindagi main Apni Olaad ki Naik Tarbiyat ki Hay Tau Us Olaad ke Naik AMaal ka SAwaab bhi Marnay Walay ko Milta Rahay ga

AB ATAY HAIN US BAAT KI TARAF JO APNAY HADEED KI ALTERATION KI BAAT KI.. I THINK APKE PASS BHI SAHEE BUKHARI AND MUSLIM TAU HOOGI WO SARI HADEED REPEAT KARTA HON

Narrated Ibn ‘Abbas: The mother of Sad bin ‘Ubada died in his absence. He said, “O Allah’s Apostle! My mother died in my absence; will it be of any benefit for her if I give Sadaqa on her behalf?” The Prophet said, “Yes,” Sad said, “I make you a witness that I gave my garden called Al Makhraf in charity on her behalf.” [Sahih Bukhari, Book 51, Hadith 19)

YEh Wo Hadeed Hay Jo Apnay Likhi thi Apnay Note Main But Apnay Shayad Yeh Goor nahi kiya Ke Yeh Main Apni Thread Main Explain KAr chuka Hon Aur Yehi Hadeed Aik DAfa Nahi Do Dafa Aii Hay as a Copy to Sahee Bukhari Jo ke Actual Is Tarah Jiss Main Hazrat Saad Bin Ubada R.A Ki WAlida ki Aik Mannat thi And Unhoon nay Prophet PBUH Say poocha ke Unko Unki Manat Poray Honay Say pahlay Maut nay Aa Pakra.. Tau kiya wo Main Poori Kar Sakta Hon Prophet PBUH said YES. As per you see below

Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: Sad bin Ubada consulted Allah's Apostle saying, "My mother died and she had an unfulfilled vow." The Prophet said, "Fulfill it on her behalf." [Sahih Bukhari, Book 51, Hadith 23]

Challooo Chooroo Is baat ko Is Par Agar Doubt Hay Tauu Yehi Hadeed Sahi Bukhari main aik Aur Jagah bhi Ai hayy Upar Wali Hadeed Ka Refference Daikha.. Ab Jo Paste karta hon Uska Refference Exact Words Main DAikhiyee..

Narrated Sa’id bin ‘Ubada Al-Ansari: that he consulted the Prophet about a vow that had been made by his mother who died without fulfilling it. The Prophet gave his verdict that he should fulfill it on her behalf. The verdict became Sunna (i.e. the Prophet’s tradition). [Sahih Bukhari, Book 78, Hadith 689]

Ab Issi Type Ki Dosri Hadeed Zara Daikhiyee


Sahih Bukhari Book 29. Penalty of Hunting While on Pilgrimage

Narated By Ibn 'Abbas : A woman from the tribe of Juhaina came to the Prophet and said, "My mother had vowed to perform Hajj but she died before performing it. May I perform Hajj on my mother's behalf?" The Prophet replied, "Perform Hajj on her behalf. Had there been a debt on your mother, would you have paid it or not? So, pay Allah's debt as He has more right to be paid.

Aik Aur Hadeed


Sahih Bukhari Book 31. Fasting

Narated By Ibn Abbas : A man came to the Prophet and said, "O Allah's Apostle! My mother died and she ought to have fasted one month (for her missed Ramadan). Shall I fast on her behalf?" The Prophet replied in the affirmative and said, "Allah's debts have more right to be paid." In another narration a woman is reported to have said, "My sister died..."

Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: A woman said to the Prophet "My mother died and she had vowed to fast but she didn't fast." In another narration Ibn 'Abbas is reported to have said, "A woman said to the Prophet, "My mother died while she ought to have fasted for fifteen days."

Yeh Aik Aur Hadeed


Sahih Bukhari Book 92. Holding Fast to the Qur'an and Sunnah

Narrated By Ibn 'Abbas : A woman came to the Prophet and said, "My mother vowed to perform the Hajj but she died before performing it. Should I perform the Hajj on her behalf?" He said, "Yes! Perform the Hajj on her behalf. See, if your mother had been in debt, would you have paid her debt?" She said, "Yes." He said, "So you should pay what is for Him as Allah has more right that one should fulfill one's obligations to Him."

As per you see in above hadeed there is no written ke App marnay ke baad Marnay walay ke Liye Quran Khuwani Karwaoo For Ishaal E Sawaab Balkay yeh Hadeed Mannat Say Related hain.. ke Aik banday nay apni Zindagi main 15 Rozay Rakhnay ki Mannat ki but Usko Maut Nay Aa Pakra.. Uski Olaad mmain Say koi Is mannat ko Poora karay ga Tau iska Sawaab ussay pohanchay gaa.



NOTE: Upar Kahi Gai Tamaam Batain Main Nay na Khud Say ki hain. Aur Na Main Khud Say Kar Sakta hon.. issi wajah say main nay Har baat kay Saath Quraan aur Hadeed Ka Refference Diya hay.. and Brother Please mind na karna Apnay Jo Last Reply main Hadeed bayaan ki Hay Uskay Saath neechay Sub Refference hay Through the Book Of Maktab Daral Alima. Ab Zahir Si baat hay Is Hadeed ka Main Refference bhi Hooga. Like From Sahee Bukhari Or Muslim Or Mota Imam Malik Or Mota ahmed Bin Hamble Or Ibne Maja Wo bhi please dijiye ga takay main iski bhi confirmation kar sakoon.

ALLAH ke Liye Ki gai Mannat Ko Ishaal E Sawab main Mix nahi Kar SAktay.. Ab main bhi Dil Azari nahi kar Raha but aik chouta Sa Question hay mera Jo main Aksar Soochta hon.. Ke Yeh Quran Khuwani Yeh Kunday Wagera Sirf Pakistan Aur India Ke Muslims Par Farz hain ?

In Answer Every Thing is Acceptable Through ALLAH's Quraan & Prophet's (PBUH) Farmaan.

 

[AYAZ]

AS SALAAM O ALAIKUM, Jee mei nei bilkul read kara aap nie shaed meri hadees read nahi kari jo mei nie post kari Ke

Isaal-e-sawab ka intezar kartey hie aus mei bhai behan bhi shamil hei. Aik baat dosri baat yeh aap ki Pehli paish kari hoiye ayaat jo aap nie ais liye kari ke rules and regulation hie tou wohi contradict kar rahi hie .

First you said :

Surat Al-Baqarah (The Cow) - سورة البقرة 2:134

“This is a people that have passed away; they shall have what they earned and you shall have what you earn, and you shall not be called upon to answer for what they did.”

Aab aap nei neechey phir aus ko hi quote kardi ke yeh allow hie ain cheezo me.

Abu Huraira (RA) reported Allah’s Messenger (SAW) as saying: When a man dies, his acts come to an end, but three, recurring charity, or knowledge (by which people) benefit, or a pious son, who prays for him (for the deceased). [Sahih Muslim - Book 13, Hadith 4005]

Phir aap apney aus reply ko dekho jis mei ap nei khud kaha ke account close hojata hie . Aik taref kuch keh rahey ho aap dosri taref kuch.

Tou bhai baat sirf Itni hie ke Naik kamo mein sabkat leijani chaiye. Aap nie ab tek ais baat ka reply nahi diya ke Phir dua kyon kari jati hei ke Magfirat farma dein jin ka amaal aun ke sir hie na? Tou phir Ijtemai Dua mei Magfirat kartey hie tou wo tou phir Khula Inkaar howa Aap ki uper paish karta Ayat sei jis sei aap meaning out nikal rahey ho aur jis mei likha nahi clearly ke niyaz mana hie.


SAHABA NIAZ KARTE THE -
Hazrat Ali (Radi ALLAHO Anho)ne kia SARKAR (Salallaho alehiwsllam) ke Naam se aik meendha zibah kia kerte thay
Allah ki bargah me.
(Jamay Tirmizi, jild#1,Pg#538. Sunan Abu-Dawood, jild#2,Pg#29)

Qur'an:
Tera Rab khub jaanta hai koun Behka uski Raah se, aur woh khub jaanta hai hidaayat walon ko
"TO KHAAO USME SE JIS PAR ALLAH KA NAAM LIYA GAYAA AGAR TUM USKI AAYAATE MAANTE HO."
Aur tumhe kya hua ke unme se na khao jispar ALLAH ka NAAM liya gaya,
[ SURAH ANA'AM (SURAH.6, PARA.8): 117-119 ]


SAHI MUSLIM, SHA SITTA, BUKHARI SHARIF SAB MY YE HADIS MOJUD HAI
KI
AQA ALEHIS SALAM NEY HAZRAT E HAMZA (RADI YAL LAHO TA ALA ANHO) KI QABR PAR JAKAR UN KO ISAALEY SAWAB KIYA THA
OR APNEY GHAR AAKER KHANEY PAR FATIHA DILWA KAR TAMAM SAHABIYO KO KHILAYA THA



Niyaz ka khana jaiz hai : Aesi tarah Niyaz per ALLAH ka qalam parh kar phoka jata hai balkey wo barqat wala khana hojata hai tou niyaz ka khana jaiz hia.

Naik kamo mei sabqat lei jana chaiye :

Ab Taraveeh Hazrat Umer (R.A) nei start kari theek tou kyon pahrtey ho aap ? na Quran mei hukum hei ais ka ? Na Hadees Shareef sei sabit hie ke Hazrat Muhammad (P.B.U.H) nei Start kara. Tou kyon parhtey ho taraveeh ? Aur na HAZRAT MUHAMMAD (P.B.U.H) nei mana farmiya ais cheez ko.

Dosri baat : Fajar ki azaan mei (Namaaz neend sei behter hai ) Yeh word bhi Hazrat Umer Farooq (R.A) nei add karwaya.

Aab aap Quran mei muj ko Namaaz parhney ka tareeqa dekha do ?

Amaal ka darumadaaar Niyat per hai ke wo kis niyat sei kara jaraha hei.

Aab aap kehtay hie Quran Paak Jo Banda Masjid mei rakhwata hei Aus ko aus ka ajer milta hie right?. Kyon ke aus nie naik kamo ke liye kherch kara.

Aulaad ki gher walo ki achi tarbiyat karna ager koiye karta hei tou wo aus ki investment hai. Phir all Good deeds jo aus ki family karey gi aus ka ajar o sawab aus bandey ko milta rahey ga.

Aur rahi baat Ke Kahi aur kyon nahi hota.

Tou Bhai 4 Imams of Fiqah hai tou jo Har fiqah different Imam ko follow karta hai.

Aur meray liye aap sei bhi ek question hie. I have been to saudia for 8 years and I never heard anyone saying don't do this and don't do that. Sub apni namaz parhtey hei aur gher jatey hie bas waha yeh mei nei aj tek nahi dekha ke 2 saudi jama hai aur wo sub ko keh rahey ho aesa karo ya wesa karo yeh sahi hai ya wo sahi hai. Wo apni namaz parhtey hai aur gher jatey hei bas yeh bhi sirf Pakistan aur india mei hi aap ko lagey ga ke har koiye Mufti bana howa hota hei ke yeh sahi hie wo ghalat hie wo aesa hie yeh wesa hai. Question uthaya jaey ga tou aus ka jawab bhi diya jaey ga. Question na uthao aap wo karo jo aap ko sahi lagta hie aur dosrey wo kareinge jo aun ko sahi lagta hai no one will argue?

Kyon ke ap nie khud yeh Quote kara hai :

“This is a people that have passed away; they shall have what they earned and you shall have what you earn, and you shall not be called upon to answer for what they did.”

Har kisi ke amaal aun ke sar hai.




Ain topics mei na aap roko gei na mei rokonga kyon ke aap jin ko follow kartey ho aun ko hi karo gei aur mei jin ko karta ho mei aun ko hi karonga. Jo Ahle- Hadees hie wo alag aun ke dalail hain, Jo Ahle- Sunnat hei aun ke alag Dalail hei Aur Baki Aesi tarah jo hai sub ke Alag Alag dalail hai aur wo aun ko follow kartey hai.

JAZAK ALLAH Khair.

 

[Hayyan_Memon]

Originally Posted by AYAZ

AS SALAAM O ALAIKUM, Jee mei nei bilkul read kara aap nie shaed meri hadees read nahi kari jo mei nie post kari Ke

Isaal-e-sawab ka intezar kartey hie aus mei bhai behan bhi shamil hei. Aik baat dosri baat yeh aap ki Pehli paish kari hoiye ayaat jo aap nie ais liye kari ke rules and regulation hie tou wohi contradict kar rahi hie .

First you said :

Aab aap nei neechey phir aus ko hi quote kardi ke yeh allow hie ain cheezo me.

Phir aap apney aus reply ko dekho jis mei ap nei khud kaha ke account close hojata hie . Aik taref kuch keh rahey ho aap dosri taref kuch.

Tou bhai baat sirf Itni hie ke Naik kamo mein sabkat leijani chaiye. Aap nie ab tek ais baat ka reply nahi diya ke Phir dua kyon kari jati hei ke Magfirat farma dein jin ka amaal aun ke sir hie na? Tou phir Ijtemai Dua mei Magfirat kartey hie tou wo tou phir Khula Inkaar howa Aap ki uper paish karta Ayat sei jis sei aap meaning out nikal rahey ho aur jis mei likha nahi clearly ke niyaz mana hie.


SAHABA NIAZ KARTE THE -
Hazrat Ali (Radi ALLAHO Anho)ne kia SARKAR (Salallaho alehiwsllam) ke Naam se aik meendha zibah kia kerte thay
Allah ki bargah me.
(Jamay Tirmizi, jild#1,Pg#538. Sunan Abu-Dawood, jild#2,Pg#29)

Qur'an:
Tera Rab khub jaanta hai koun Behka uski Raah se, aur woh khub jaanta hai hidaayat walon ko
"TO KHAAO USME SE JIS PAR ALLAH KA NAAM LIYA GAYAA AGAR TUM USKI AAYAATE MAANTE HO."
Aur tumhe kya hua ke unme se na khao jispar ALLAH ka NAAM liya gaya,
[ SURAH ANA'AM (SURAH.6, PARA.8): 117-119 ]


SAHI MUSLIM, SHA SITTA, BUKHARI SHARIF SAB MY YE HADIS MOJUD HAI
KI
AQA ALEHIS SALAM NEY HAZRAT E HAMZA (RADI YAL LAHO TA ALA ANHO) KI QABR PAR JAKAR UN KO ISAALEY SAWAB KIYA THA
OR APNEY GHAR AAKER KHANEY PAR FATIHA DILWA KAR TAMAM SAHABIYO KO KHILAYA THA



Niyaz ka khana jaiz hai : Aesi tarah Niyaz per ALLAH ka qalam parh kar phoka jata hai balkey wo barqat wala khana hojata hai tou niyaz ka khana jaiz hia.

Naik kamo mei sabqat lei jana chaiye :

Ab Taraveeh Hazrat Umer (R.A) nei start kari theek tou kyon pahrtey ho aap ? na Quran mei hukum hei ais ka ? Na Hadees Shareef sei sabit hie ke Hazrat Muhammad (P.B.U.H) nei Start kara. Tou kyon parhtey ho taraveeh ? Aur na HAZRAT MUHAMMAD (P.B.U.H) nei mana farmiya ais cheez ko.

Dosri baat : Fajar ki azaan mei (Namaaz neend sei behter hai ) Yeh word bhi Hazrat Umer Farooq (R.A) nei add karwaya.

Aab aap Quran mei muj ko Namaaz parhney ka tareeqa dekha do ?

Amaal ka darumadaaar Niyat per hai ke wo kis niyat sei kara jaraha hei.

Aab aap kehtay hie Quran Paak Jo Banda Masjid mei rakhwata hei Aus ko aus ka ajer milta hie right?. Kyon ke aus nie naik kamo ke liye kherch kara.

Aulaad ki gher walo ki achi tarbiyat karna ager koiye karta hei tou wo aus ki investment hai. Phir all Good deeds jo aus ki family karey gi aus ka ajar o sawab aus bandey ko milta rahey ga.

Aur rahi baat Ke Kahi aur kyon nahi hota.

Tou Bhai 4 Imams of Fiqah hai tou jo Har fiqah different Imam ko follow karta hai.

Aur meray liye aap sei bhi ek question hie. I have been to saudia for 8 years and I never heard anyone saying don't do this and don't do that. Sub apni namaz parhtey hei aur gher jatey hie bas waha yeh mei nei aj tek nahi dekha ke 2 saudi jama hai aur wo sub ko keh rahey ho aesa karo ya wesa karo yeh sahi hai ya wo sahi hai. Wo apni namaz parhtey hai aur gher jatey hei bas yeh bhi sirf Pakistan aur india mei hi aap ko lagey ga ke har koiye Mufti bana howa hota hei ke yeh sahi hie wo ghalat hie wo aesa hie yeh wesa hai. Question uthaya jaey ga tou aus ka jawab bhi diya jaey ga. Question na uthao aap wo karo jo aap ko sahi lagta hie aur dosrey wo kareinge jo aun ko sahi lagta hai no one will argue?

Kyon ke ap nie khud yeh Quote kara hai :




Har kisi ke amaal aun ke sar hai.




Ain topics mei na aap roko gei na mei rokonga kyon ke aap jin ko follow kartey ho aun ko hi karo gei aur mei jin ko karta ho mei aun ko hi karonga. Jo Ahle- Hadees hie wo alag aun ke dalail hain, Jo Ahle- Sunnat hei aun ke alag Dalail hei Aur Baki Aesi tarah jo hai sub ke Alag Alag dalail hai aur wo aun ko follow kartey hai.

JAZAK ALLAH Khair.

As Salam O Alikum wR wB

MashaALLAH Brother apnay bohat Acha SAwaal kiya Again.. But mughe yeh Cheez samaj nahi aati Upar wali Agar app Thread Reply daikhain Tau Apkay Tamaam SAwalaat Ka Jawaab day Raha hon main But app meray kissi Sawaal ka Jawaab nahi Day Rahay.. Balkay Har baar Aik non logical Question Kartay hain..
Apnay Kaha Ke AYAH Aur HADEED apas main Conflict Karti hay.. Chalain Main Explain KArta hon Phir mughe Bataiyee Ga Kaisay Conflict karti hay..

AYAH Jo Apnay bataii Quote ki wo yeh thi
“This is a people that have passed away; they shall have what they earned and you shall have what you earn, and you shall not be called upon to answer for what they did.”

IS AYAH ko AGAR app Goor say parhain Tau is main ALLAH nay kaha ke Jo loog IS duniya Say chalay gayy Unke Baray main Apsay nahi poocha jay gaa.. Matlab wo Jo Amaal Apni Duniyawi zindagi main Kar Gay Wo unke Amaal Thay.. Aur Tumharay Saath tumharay AMAAL hain

AB HADEED KI TARAF ATAY HAIN JO APNAY KAHA KE CONFLICT KARTI HAY

Abu Huraira (RA) reported Allah’s Messenger (SAW) as saying: When a man dies, his acts come to an end, but three, recurring charity, or knowledge (by which people) benefit, or a pious son, who prays for him (for the deceased). [Sahih Muslim - Book 13, Hadith 4005]

Apnay Kaha Ke Upar ALLAH Kah Raha hay Ke Wo Duniya main Kaam Kar Gayy wo Unke Amaal hain.. Tau Phir Is HAdeed main Kion Baat ho rahi hay Ke Aisay unko Sawaab Pohanch Sakta hay.. Tau BHAI Agar Thoora sa Goor say daikhain Tau is HADEED main Koi AISI CHEez nahi hay Jo Ke Wo Apni Zindagi main na Kar ke Gayy honn.. Balkay yeh Sari cheezain wo khud Apni Zindagi main kar ke Gayy hain.

1) SAdqa E jaaria Wo khud Apni Zindagi main Kar ke Gayy.. Koi MAsjid Banwa Di koi Kunwaan khudwa Diya
2) ILM wo Khud apni Zindagi main Day kar Gay.. Kissi ko Ilm Diya Wo us ilm say unke Duniya ke Janay ke Baad bhi Mustafeed Ho raha hay
3) Apnay Bachoon ki Achi Tarbiyat Wo Khud apni Zindagi main Kar ke Gayy. Ke Unke Bachay Agar koi Naik Amal kartay hain tau uska SAwaab bhi unko Pohanchta hay..

CONFUSION KAISI HAY BHAI IDHAR ? ZARA MUGHE BHI TAU SAMJAIN.. YA JAAN BOOJ KAR HUM LOGOON NAY HI CONFUSION BANAI HOI HAY ?

Aur Phir Apnay Baat ki US Hadeed ki Jo Sahee Bukhari Aur Muslim Main hay ke Prophet PBUH nay Fateha Karwa Kar Sahaba ko khilaya thaa.. Tau mughe bhi Zara uska Refference Day dain.. Thoora Meray Ilm main bhi Izafa ho jayy..

Aur Main Nay Kab Kaha Ke QuraN main HAr Amal ka Tareeka Hay ? Quraan Main Sirf Hukam hay Tareeka HAdeed say SAbit hay.. But Kam Az Kam wo Hadeed bhi Tau Hoon na Jiss say Tareeka Sabit hoo..

Ab Apnay Kahaa Ke AMAL KA DAROMADAAR NIYAT PAR HAY.. BEshak Apnay Theek kahaa but iska Yeh MAtlab nahi ke.. Jo Chahay Amal kartay rahain hum. Yahan US AMAL ki baat hoo rahi hay Jo Quraan Aur HADEED Say sabit hon. Na ke Har Naik AMAL jo hum Sirf Niyat ki Wajah Say kar baithain..

5 Waqt ki namaaz Farz hay Right ? Niyat Kiya hay ? ALLAH ko RAZI KARna... Koi Kahay ke Wo 6 Waqt ki Namaaz Farz parhay gaa.. Niyat Kiya hoogi ? ALLAH ko Razi karna ?... Tau bhai as per my knowledge Deen is tarah nahi hoota.. HAR US AMAL KI NIYAT DAIKHTA HAY ALLAH JO QURAAN MAIN USNAY BATAI HAY Aur HADEED main uski Explaination hay.. Aur apnay NAMAAZ parhnay ke TAreekay ki baat ki ? TAREEKOON KE MAMLAY MAIN NIYAT WALI baat App kar Saktay hoo.. But AMAL ke Baray main nahi.. Becoz Amal Aur Tareekay main bohat Fark hay.. AMAL KARNA MATLAB NAMAAZ PARHNA.. AUR TAREEKA matlab App Jantay hoo ke Kiss Tareekay say namaaz parhi jaati hay..

AB END MAIN BARI MAZRAT KE SAATH.. MAIN NAY APNI CONVERSATION MAIN NA KOI QOOL NA KOI FATWA PAISH KIYA.. BECOZ MAIN KISSI FIKAY KI BAAT NAHI KAR RAHA.. FIKAY KI BAAT MAIN APKO PATA HAY HAR BANDAY KI APNI RAYY HOOTI HAY.. MAIN TAU US CHEEZ KI BAAT KAR RAHA HON JO HAR JAGHAH COMMON HAIN WO HAY ALLAH KA QURAAN AND MOHAMMAD (PBUH) KA FARMAAN

Ab Rahi baat Fatway ki.. Tau meray pass yeh tamaam Fatway mojood hain.. balkay jahaan say apnay yeh Fatwa paste kiya hay wo book 100,000 Fatwaat par Mojood hay..

AUR ALIMOO NAY TAU BOHAT KISAM KE FATWAY DIYE HAIN FOR EXAMPLE

Quied E Azam ke Kafir honay ka Fatwa bhi hay
Alama Iqbal ke Kafir honay ka Fatwa bhi hay
Sir Syed Ahmed Khan ke Kafir honay ka Fatwa bhi hay
Jisnay Turki Topi Pahni Uske Kafir honay ka Fatwa
Jisnay Bagair kissi wajah Angraizi Topi apnay ghar main Rakhi uske Kafir honay ka Fatwa
Jisnay IMAM E Khana E kaba ke peechay namaaz parhi wo kafir hay..

Aur meri NAZAR main IN FATWOON ki koi Value nahi.. Aur agar app kahtay ho ke main Sirf waisay hi baat kar raha hon.. Tau app ijazat dain mughe main Tamaam Fatwaat Orignal Books say apko Scan kar ke idhar laga kar dikha deta hon..

IS WAJAH say bhai Baat Hum wo karaingay jo ALLAH ke Quraan aur Prophet PBUH ke Farmaan say sabit hoo..

MERA MAKSAD KISSI KI DIL AZARI KARNA NAHI HAY.. AUR MUGHE BARAY AFSOOS SAY KAHNA PARTA HAY. KE HUMARAY HAAN JO TALEEM DI JAATI HAY BACHPAN SAY US MAIN IKHTELAAF KO BAAT CHEET SAY SOLVE KARNAY KA NA KOI TAREEKA BATAYA JATA HAY.. NA KOI AMAL..AUR HUM SAB KE SAB IS MAIN SHAMIL HAIN MERAY SAMEET..

JISS DIN HUM NAY BAAT CHEET KAR KE AIK DOSRAY KO SAMAJNAY KA TAREEKA SEEKH LIYA.. I THINK US DIN TAMAAM MUSLIM UMMAH AIK HOOGI.. MAIN KAHTA HON KE AGAR MUGH MAIN KOI GHALTI HAY TAU APP USSAY DURUST KARAIN.. MUGHE APP SAMJAIN KE BHAI APP IS LEHAAZ SAY GHALAT HOO AUR YEH HAY USKA PROOF.. TAKAY MAIN APNAY APP KO SAHI RAH PAR LAA SAKOON.. BECOZ MERI SOOCH IS BAAT PAR HAY.. KE APP APNA MOKAF AGAR BAYAAN KARTAY HAIN TAU PHIR SAMNAY WALAY KI BAAT SUN KAR AGAR USKA MOKAF DURUST AUR SAHI HAY TAU US PAR SURRENDER BHI KARAIN..

JAZAAK ALLAH..
PLEASE NOTE WITH RESPECT " IN ANSWER EVERYTHING IS ACCEPTABLE THROUGH ALLAH's QURAAN AND PROPHET (PBUH) FARMAAN."

 

[AYAZ]

Bhai jaan aap ko baat samj nahi aiye gi kyon ke aap samjhna nahi charahey ap nei ayat phir quote kardi aur kaha matlab yeh ke ? matlab yeh sei kia matlab hie ? aus sei tou aap ka jo dil karey wo matlab bana do aur kaho yahi matlab hie ? Mera question abhi bhi wesa hi hai ke kaha likha hie clear words dekha do aap ke mana hai? ap phir baat ko ghoma phera detay ho aur akhbaar shaya kardetay ho.

Aap nie first kaha ke pehley acceptable hei mei nie ap ko diye tou ap nie start kardiya ais mei yeh aus mei wo ya tou aap yeh kaho nahi ke dosray ki baat acceptable hie sirf aap jo kaho wohi haq hai wohi such hie and wohi end hei bas.

Aur rahi baat firkey ki tou aap nie sawal khud kara ke Pakistan mei hi kyon hota hei aesa tou aus ka jawab diya mei nie .

Aur bhai masla hamarey liye nahi hai masla aap nie banaya howa hie ap ke liye masla hai yeh hamarey liye tou sub cheez clear hei jo saaf words mei likha hie without ais ke ke ais ka matlab yeh hoga ya aus ka matlab wo hoga.

Last baat ab mei agey ais mei kisi cheez ka reply nahi donga kyon ke yeh tou wohi baat hoiye " Main Na Maano ", Main agey mazeed bhi Hadees paish karo aap wo bhi nahi mano gei aur sath mei yeh bhi ap likh do ke every thing is acceptable ager wo Quran aur Hadees sei hei. Aur aap jo khud paish kar rahey hie sorry to say they all are irrelevant jis sei aap khud matlab pointout kar rahey ho kar rahey ho .

Jazak ALLAH khair.