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A Query A hadith

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Dear All

I am posting here something first time ever i joined this forum and the reason is obvious i am not religious at all. But yes curious to certain extent which make me disturb whenever i dont get any answer at all. This applies on my daily life as well. The above mentioned Hadith i read few years back and from that time i was wondering that how can i get that meaning of it. Though the study of hadith is a life taking job and people flourished their lives and the search and study this subject. This made me contact alot of scholars and sheikh ul hadith and sufis but couldn't get satisfaction due to lack of simplicity in explanation and conflict of believes in different sack of muslims.

But this morning i got something i really wondering for, I was sitting with my friend who is a Ph.D in Opto electronics from oxford university. We were discussing the behaviour and rules or Meta Physics in muslims and nonmuslims. Suddenly this hadith came into ma mind and i asked him.

he replied me to just concentrate on the first word of the hadith "MOMIN". What is a momin, who we called a momin and what are his attributes then i could understand the farasat and the rest of the hadith. we talked over this hadith for like next 2 more hours.

The purpose of posting this here is to involve you people into this and want a feed back from you guys about the perception of momin in you minds. I want a very clear mindset and reasonable replies. I know a very few will take interest in this but yet need some feed back on this.

Will pursue this after getting those replies

Thanks...

Re: A Query A hadith

SubhanAllah
JazakAllah

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parh letey tou ziada khushi hoti :s

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Bht umda topic Shaam... :)

Mere khayal se to Momin sirf wohi he nhi hota jo namazen parhe or Zakat de. Ye sab krne se insaan momin nhi ban jata jb insaan Allah Ta'la k bandon k sath he acha salook na rkhe to uski barri se barri ibadat b Rabb Ta'la k age kch nhi rehti..

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According To IshFaq Ahmed (I Hope you All Know him)
MUslman = Ju Allah Ku Manta Hay Us Ki Tammam Sifat k Saat

Momin= Ju Allah Ki Maanta Hay....
Now In My Wording I would Like to Explain The WORD "Momin" Throu Quran
In Quran Allah Subhana wa Talla Called Momin to those PPL who Said " Samyna Wa Athana" Mtlb Hum nai Suna Aur Hum nai Ataat Ki

Jub Jub Un ku ALLAH nai Kisi Kaam ka Kaha Unhu nai Koi bahana nahi banaya Koi excuse Nothing Just Said OK this is the Order of Our ALLAH n Our Rasool so we Have to Follow this... Yeh Rawaya ALLAH ku Buhat Zyda Pasand hay

ALLAH ku Hazrat Ibrahim ALAIHI SALAM sai itni Muhabat Kio hay ..Kio k ALLAH nai Kaha "Sir Juhka DU (Qabol ker lo) Aur ik lamha Zaya Kiye baghair unhu nai kaha me nai Qabol kiya :) ALLAH SWT un ki shaan me kahty Hay Surah Baqra mai" WO Yaksu Muslman ty"

Hope U all Get My Point :)

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thanku all for ur precious comments.

the confusion is still here that we are created to worship according to Quran but what comes in that domain. If offering Salah and rest of the commandments what we usually do is worshiping. Iqbal said "jinhey tu ne bakshaw hai zoq e khudai". Those who knows the will of Allah.

Now look at those few whom we call " Ashra e Mubashira", I am sure there isnt any doubt saying them true momin as Allah said to them "mei tum se raazi".

There was a common thingin their behaviors towards life and that is their FAITH and BELIEF in Allah. The belief that has been made in the 1st 13 years of Makkah life with without sending and law that everything happens as per Allah wish. You cannot get advantage nor get any harm unless HE ordered.

Now come to a technical overview of the matter i.e. laws. There is always a physical law which has been made for everything that happening in nature. But for a momin they have been given the command over some supreme law which over come the usual laws of nature. for example

vanish the burning capability of fire
passing through the wall
a letter to the river neil and so many

now we are reaching to the second part of the hadith " FARASAT". This is a Momin Farasat that he SEE and OBSERVE the world with the attributes of what Allah has been given to him. Thus a Momin can see what we cant. He answered with the wisdom where our brain does not reach.

Now i would like you ppl to add some comments which can define Momins Farasat.

Thanks All..

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Good Question :)
InshaALLAH I will add my comment later

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sure furqan i will wait for it.

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Kuch din baad InshaALLAH !!