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Hayyan_Memon
11-19-2012, 11:49 PM
As Salam O Alikum wR wB..

From Today im gonna Discuss here some Hard topics.. But First I want to clear one thing.. may be some pplz dont gonna like it.. but i can assure one thing that any thing which i'm going to discuss here is only from ALLAH's Quraan AND MOHAMMAD's (PBUH) FARMAAN.. NO KISSA NO KAHANI NO QOOL NO WAQIYA, NOT EVEN HALF AYAH OR HALF HADEED WIDOUT CONTENTS THAT MOSTLY PPLZ DO TO PROVE dere BELIVES AND IN REPLY EVERYTHING IS ACCEPTABLE THROUGH ALLAH's QURAAN AND MOHAMMAD's (PBUH) FARMAAN.

JAZAAK ALLAH SO THE FIRST TOPIC IS ON NIYAAZ IN ISLAM ONE OF MY FRIEND HERE SPECIALLY REQUESTED ME TO DISCUSS THIS ISSUE BECOZ OF THE MONTH OF MOHARRAM..


First The Meaning Of Niyaz

Niyaz is done on the occasion of the death of some saint or good person. Anyone who is considered to be a "Awliya Allah" by people. The intention in doing Niyaz is that the person for whom it is done will be pleased with the person who is doing it and after being pleased the saint will grant the needs of the asker or will solve his problem or will help him in the Akhirah. But all acts of servitude are for Allah alone. We should try to please him alone.


Now Some Proofs From Quraan
Allah has said in the Qur'an 6:162
"Truly my prayer and my service of sacrifice my life and my death are (all) for Allah the Cherisher of the Worlds"

"NOTE ABOVE WORD SERVICE OF SACRIFICE ONLY FOR ALLAH"

It is given in the Qur'an in no less than four different places 2:173 , 6:145 , 16:115 and 5:3
"Forbidden to you (for food) are: dead meat blood the flesh of swine and that on which hath been invoked the name of other than Allah"

Allah has told us in the Qur'an in Surah Zumar 39:3 that the Mushriks of Makkah who used to worship idols and do sacrifices for their idols used to say:
"Is it not to Allah that sincere devotion is due? But those who take for protectors other than Allah (say): "We only serve them in order that they may bring us nearer to Allah." "
Hence even they used to say that they do this only so that they(idols) would take them closer to Allah. The Mushriks of Makkah were considered wrong because of all this and were called "Kafirs" (rejectors) and "Mushriks" (those who associate partners with Allah). Since they were wrong then even we are wrong if we do that.

Neither our beloved Prophet nor the Sahaba ever did Niyaz. They understood and followed Islam much better than us. Isn't there a proof in this that if it was something good they would have surely done it.In the light of the above stated facts it can be concluded that doing Niyaz is wrong.

AND NOW FOR THOSE WHO EAT NIYAZ IN ABOVE MANNERS
Allah has said in Surah an Nisa 4:85
"Whoever recommends and helps a good cause becomes a partner therein: and whoever recommends and helps an evil cause shares in its burden"

NOTE: Now for the believer of Niyaz they first use to say that those Ayah was for Mushrikeen E Makka.. den My Question is Who were we before ISLAM ? ? ? QURAAn is not only for Mushrikeen E Makka it is for all Men and jins

The Second Thing they use to say that.. we use to do niyaz in the name of ALLAH.. den my questions is this why only on special days ? and some of dem use to say we use to do it in the name of ALLAH to give sawaab to those who are not between us.. and this is also wrong from ISLAM ( Later I WILL EXPLAIN THE WAYS OF SENDING SAWAAB TO THOSE WHO ARE NOT BETWEEN US THROUGH QURAAN AND HADEED)

JAZAAK ALLAH

AYAZ
11-20-2012, 12:23 AM
AS SALAAM O ALAIKUM,

Hayyan yeh barey sensitive topics hie ais mei phir yeh hota hie ke wazahaat paish ki jaye tou phir bola jata hie ke wo weak HADEES hai Aur ais mei ab tek behass o mubasa chal raha hie For example :

Log pouchtey hie ke Kunde ki niyaz kyon di jati hie ?

Tou ais ka answer yeh hai ke : Kundey ki niyaz Hazrat Imam Jaffar Sadiq (R.A) ke liye ISAAL -E-SAWAAB hai aur Isaal-e-Sawaab Quraan aur Hadees sei sabit hai .

Z_Zealous
11-20-2012, 12:27 AM
As Salam O Alikum wR wB..

From Today im gonna Discuss here some Hard topics.. But First I want to clear one thing.. may be some pplz dont gonna like it.. but i can assure one thing that any thing which i'm going to discuss here is only from ALLAH's Quraan AND MOHAMMAD's (PBUH) FARMAAN.. NO KISSA NO KAHANI NO QOOL NO WAQIYA, NOT EVEN HALF AYAH OR HALF HADEED WIDOUT CONTENTS THAT MOSTLY PPLZ DO TO PROVE dere BELIVES AND IN REPLY EVERYTHING IS ACCEPTABLE THROUGH ALLAH's QURAAN AND MOHAMMAD's (PBUH) FARMAAN.

JAZAAK ALLAH SO THE FIRST TOPIC IS ON NIYAAZ IN ISLAM ONE OF MY FRIEND HERE SPECIALLY REQUESTED ME TO DISCUSS THIS ISSUE BECOZ OF THE MONTH OF MOHARRAM..


First The Meaning Of Niyaz

Niyaz is done on the occasion of the death of some saint or good person. Anyone who is considered to be a "Awliya Allah" by people. The intention in doing Niyaz is that the person for whom it is done will be pleased with the person who is doing it and after being pleased the saint will grant the needs of the asker or will solve his problem or will help him in the Akhirah. But all acts of servitude are for Allah alone. We should try to please him alone.


Now Some Proofs From Quraan
Allah has said in the Qur'an 6:162
"Truly my prayer and my service of sacrifice my life and my death are (all) for Allah the Cherisher of the Worlds"

"NOTE ABOVE WORD SERVICE OF SACRIFICE ONLY FOR ALLAH"

It is given in the Qur'an in no less than four different places 2:173 , 6:145 , 16:115 and 5:3
"Forbidden to you (for food) are: dead meat blood the flesh of swine and that on which hath been invoked the name of other than Allah"

Allah has told us in the Qur'an in Surah Zumar 39:3 that the Mushriks of Makkah who used to worship idols and do sacrifices for their idols used to say:
"Is it not to Allah that sincere devotion is due? But those who take for protectors other than Allah (say): "We only serve them in order that they may bring us nearer to Allah." "
Hence even they used to say that they do this only so that they(idols) would take them closer to Allah. The Mushriks of Makkah were considered wrong because of all this and were called "Kafirs" (rejectors) and "Mushriks" (those who associate partners with Allah). Since they were wrong then even we are wrong if we do that.

Neither our beloved Prophet nor the Sahaba ever did Niyaz. They understood and followed Islam much better than us. Isn't there a proof in this that if it was something good they would have surely done it.In the light of the above stated facts it can be concluded that doing Niyaz is wrong.

AND NOW FOR THOSE WHO EAT NIYAZ IN ABOVE MANNERS
Allah has said in Surah an Nisa 4:85
"Whoever recommends and helps a good cause becomes a partner therein: and whoever recommends and helps an evil cause shares in its burden"

NOTE: Now for the believer of Niyaz they first use to say that those Ayah was for Mushrikeen E Makka.. den My Question is Who were we before ISLAM ? ? ? QURAAn is not only for Mushrikeen E Makka it is for all Men and jins

The Second Thing they use to say that.. we use to do niyaz in the name of ALLAH.. den my questions is this why only on special days ? and some of dem use to say we use to do it in the name of ALLAH to give sawaab to those who are not between us.. and this is also wrong from ISLAM ( Later I WILL EXPLAIN THE WAYS OF SENDING SAWAAB TO THOSE WHO ARE NOT BETWEEN US THROUGH QURAAN AND HADEED)

JAZAAK ALLAH

Wa Alaekum Assalam
Hayyan Bhai Buhat hi Khoobsoorat Alfaz se ap ne is Khoobsoorat Topic per likha he
me to ankhne band kar k in sub baton per 200% agree karta hon ...
Ye Issue kafi important tha and is month k hawale se ap ne bayan kiya he
buhat acha laga
Logo ko Awairness honi chaiye warna log bus apne Baap dada k dakiya nosi tareeke
Apna kar bolte hen k ye hamara baap dada ka tareeka he is lie hum nhi chor sakte...


(Bhai Jan ap k is long Eassy ko mene pehlay Urdu me Convert kia)
(Google and other Dictionary ki madad se is ki Translation ki )
(Tab ja k sari bat mere Creative mind me bethi he :( )

Thank You for such a Great Sharing :) (y)

Hayyan_Memon
11-20-2012, 12:30 AM
AS SALAAM O ALAIKUM,

Hayyan yeh barey sensitive topics hie ais mei phir yeh hota hie ke wazahaat paish ki jaye tou phir bola jata hie ke wo weak HADEES hai Aur ais mei ab tek behass o mubasa chal raha hie For example :

Log pouchtey hie ke Kunde ki niyaz kyon di jati hie ?

Tou ais ka answer yeh hai ke : Kundey ki niyaz Hazrat Imam Jaffar Sadiq (R.A) ke liye ISAAL -E-SAWAAB hai aur Isaal-e-Sawaab Quraan aur Hadees sei sabit hai .


BEshak AYAZ.. Yehi baat main nay ki.. Jab Ayah Ka meaning hi Saaf hay Tau Wazahat Already ho chuki hay. ab baat Rahi Hadeed ki Tau Hadeed abhi is main shamil nahi its Only Quraan's Translation.. And Agar Niyaz Quraan Say Sabit hay.. Tau Beshak i will agree if someone can paste me some quranic verses.

Aur Haan Jab Hadeed Ki baat hoogi tau Sahee Bukhari Aur Sahee Muslim ki bhi aisi hadeed hain Jo Upar Wali Quraan ki Ayah ko Wazah karti hain.. phir main wo bhi inshaALLAH likhoonga..

Thats why i said every answer is acceptable Through ALLAH's Quraan and Mohammad's (PBUH) Farmaan.. Becoz we Follow Islam of ALLAH And His Prophet (PBUH)..

Hayyan_Memon
11-20-2012, 12:32 AM
Wa Alaekum Assalam
Hayyan Bhai Buhat hi Khoobsoorat Alfaz se ap ne is Khoobsoorat Topic per likha he
me to ankhne band kar k in sub baton per 200% agree karta hon ...
Ye Issue kafi important tha and is month k hawale se ap ne bayan kiya he
buhat acha laga
Logo ko Awairness honi chaiye warna log bus apne Baap dada k dakiya nosi tareeke
Apna kar bolte hen k ye hamara baap dada ka tareeka he is lie hum nhi chor sakte...


(Bhai Jan ap k is long Eassy ko mene pehlay Urdu me Convert kia)
(Google and other Dictionary ki madad se is ki Translation ki )
(Tab ja k sari bat mere Creative mind me bethi he :( )

Thank You for such a Great Sharing :) (y)

JAZAAK ALLAH ZUBAIB AND YOU KNOW ITS ON WHOM's REQUEST.. MAY ALLAH GUIDE US THE RIGHT PATH..

Stollen Heart
11-20-2012, 12:43 AM
Good Topic

Baat asal men yeh hoti hey keh hum logon ka ilam itta zeyada nhi hota keh hum kisi bhi baat ki gehrai men khud jaa ke soch sken. So hum ko laazmi tore pe un logon ki tarf dekhna perta hey jin ke pass ilam hota hey,

Niyaz is done on the occasion of the death of some saint or good person. Anyone who is considered to be a "Awliya Allah" by people. The intention in doing Niyaz is that the person for whom it is done will be pleased with the person who is doing it and after being pleased the saint will grant the needs of the asker or will solve his problem or will help him in the Akhirah. But all acts of servitude are for Allah alone. We should try to please him alone.

Yeh baat sub pe laagu nhi hoti, Asal baat niyet ki hoti hey keh aap jo amal kerne ko jaa rhe hen is ke peeche aap ki niyet kiya hey, Log waisi bhi niyet rakhte hen jaisa ke u ne mention kiya hey, mager bohat se log aisi niyet nhi rakhte. Me ki apni jo niyet jo niyet hoti hey jub me kisi qaber ya mazar pe jaata hon to me Fateh perhta hon ur un logon ke ke liye bhi dua kerta hon jo is wabar men hote hen ur un logon ke liye bhi jo abhi zinda hote hen, Apne liye bhi to kerne builkul nhi bholta,

Aksar jub me Data Sahib jata hon ur wahan pe gareeb ur musafer logon ko dekhta hon to Chawlon ki eik deg un men taqseen kerwa deta hon, us ke peeche builkul niyet yeh nhi hoti keh jo Sahib e Qaber hey wo khush hoga ur me ko us se kuch mil jaeiga, Haan mujhe un masaakeen ur gareeb logon ko khana khilane ka sawab zaror Allah ke haan se milega kionkeh us ne wada kiya howa hey, So us apne sawab men me jis ko chahe shamil ker lon, jo zinda hen in ko bhi ur jo duniya se guzer gay hen in ko bhi,

Sawab kya hota hey? Is ki haqeeqat kiya hey? Yeh eik alag topic hey, Yahan just men asaan fahm men itta kahonga keh insan ko jub yaqeen hota hey keh is waqt wo Allah se jo bhi dua karega wo qabool hogi to apni dua men wo dosron ke liye bhi maang leta hey, un ke liye bhi jo duniya se jaa chuke hote hen ur un ke liye bhi jo is duniya men mojod hote hen,

"Forbidden to you (for food) are: dead meat blood the flesh of swine and that on which hath been invoked the name of other than Allah"


"Is it not to Allah that sincere devotion is due? But those who take for protectors other than Allah (say): "We only serve them in order that they may bring us nearer to Allah." "

"Whoever recommends and helps a good cause becomes a partner therein: and whoever recommends and helps an evil cause shares in its burden"

"Is it not to Allah that sincere devotion is due? But those who take for protectors other than Allah (say): "We only serve them in order that they may bring us nearer to Allah." "

Kuch musalman aise hen jo is baat pe yaqeen rakhte hen keh jo Sahb e Qaber hey wo sunta bhi hey dekhta bhi hey, ur qeuamat ke din wo in ko dozakh ki aag se bacha bhi le ga, Mager aise logon ki tadaad bohat kum hey jo is baat pe yaqeen rakhte hen,

Hum qurbani Allah hi ke naam ki dete hen, Koi faqeer aa jay to wo bhi Allah hi ka naam le ke maangta hey, so jo kum tadaad men hen ur Mushrikaana amaal kerte hen un ke liye hum ko dua kerna chaiye ur Allah ur Allah ke Rasool (Peace be upon him) ki baten un ko sunani chaiye, Ur khud koshish yehi kerna chaiye keh un ko galt sabit kerne pe nah be'zid ho jaein kionkeh Islami taleemaat dene ke liye "Hikmat" se kaam lena chaiye,

Z_Zealous
11-20-2012, 12:49 AM
JAZAAK ALLAH ZUBAIB AND YOU KNOW ITS ON WHOM's REQUEST.. MAY ALLAH GUIDE US THE RIGHT PATH..

Bhai jan baqi sub to thik he lakin ye ap ne mere nam ki achi khasi watt laga di he lolxx :horse-fight:

Hayyan_Memon
11-20-2012, 01:04 AM
Good Topic

Baat asal men yeh hoti hey keh hum logon ka ilam itta zeyada nhi hota keh hum kisi bhi baat ki gehrai men khud jaa ke soch sken. So hum ko laazmi tore pe un logon ki tarf dekhna perta hey jin ke pass ilam hota hey,



Yeh baat sub pe laagu nhi hoti, Asal baat niyet ki hoti hey keh aap jo amal kerne ko jaa rhe hen is ke peeche aap ki niyet kiya hey, Log waisi bhi niyet rakhte hen jaisa ke u ne mention kiya hey, mager bohat se log aisi niyet nhi rakhte. Me ki apni jo niyet jo niyet hoti hey jub me kisi qaber ya mazar pe jaata hon to me Fateh perhta hon ur un logon ke ke liye bhi dua kerta hon jo is wabar men hote hen ur un logon ke liye bhi jo abhi zinda hote hen, Apne liye bhi to kerne builkul nhi bholta,

Aksar jub me Data Sahib jata hon ur wahan pe gareeb ur musafer logon ko dekhta hon to Chawlon ki eik deg un men taqseen kerwa deta hon, us ke peeche builkul niyet yeh nhi hoti keh jo Sahib e Qaber hey wo khush hoga ur me ko us se kuch mil jaeiga, Haan mujhe un masaakeen ur gareeb logon ko khana khilane ka sawab zaror Allah ke haan se milega kionkeh us ne wada kiya howa hey, So us apne sawab men me jis ko chahe shamil ker lon, jo zinda hen in ko bhi ur jo duniya se guzer gay hen in ko bhi,

Sawab kya hota hey? Is ki haqeeqat kiya hey? Yeh eik alag topic hey, Yahan just men asaan fahm men itta kahonga keh insan ko jub yaqeen hota hey keh is waqt wo Allah se jo bhi dua karega wo qabool hogi to apni dua men wo dosron ke liye bhi maang leta hey, un ke liye bhi jo duniya se jaa chuke hote hen ur un ke liye bhi jo is duniya men mojod hote hen,









Kuch musalman aise hen jo is baat pe yaqeen rakhte hen keh jo Sahb e Qaber hey wo sunta bhi hey dekhta bhi hey, ur qeuamat ke din wo in ko dozakh ki aag se bacha bhi le ga, Mager aise logon ki tadaad bohat kum hey jo is baat pe yaqeen rakhte hen,

Hum qurbani Allah hi ke naam ki dete hen, Koi faqeer aa jay to wo bhi Allah hi ka naam le ke maangta hey, so jo kum tadaad men hen ur Mushrikaana amaal kerte hen un ke liye hum ko dua kerna chaiye ur Allah ur Allah ke Rasool (Peace be upon him) ki baten un ko sunani chaiye, Ur khud koshish yehi kerna chaiye keh un ko galt sabit kerne pe nah be'zid ho jaein kionkeh Islami taleemaat dene ke liye "Hikmat" se kaam lena chaiye,

Jazaak ALLAH Brother For Sharing Your Knowlege.. Apnay Kafi batain batain.. Apnay Niyat ki baat ki Beshak.. I agree wid your Point.. But one thing jo mughe Ziyada Aziyat Deti hay wo yeh.. Ke aik cheez Quran nay mana kar di Saaf alfaaz main. Quraan nay kaha Sharaab Haraam hay.. Tau it meanz Haraam hay.. Matlab Jo DEEN nay diya WO LAY LAIN.. AUR JISS SAY BAAZ RAKHA US SAY BAAZ RAHAIN.. I HOPE U UNDERSTAND MY POINT..

NIYAT KI BAAT HAY.. FOR EXAMPLE APP KISSI GAREEB KI MADAD KARTAY HAIN.. APNI TASALLI KAR KE WO WAQAI HAQDAAR HAY.. BAAD MAIN APKO PATA CHALTA HAY KE WO JHOOTA THA.. WAHAN ALLAH APKI NIYAT DAIKHTA HAY ZAROOR.. BUT AIK KAAM SAY ALLAH NAY SAAF ALFAAZ MAIN MANA KAR DIYA AUR HUM WO KARAIN.. AUR PHIR HUM KAHAIN KE ALLAH NIYAT DAIKHTA HAY.. TAU Meray khayaal say yeh insaaf ki baat na hoogi..

ISSI BAAT KI EXPLAINATION MAIN NAY KI hay QURAAN ki Is AYAH main
Allah has said in Surah an Nisa 4:85
"Whoever recommends and helps a good cause becomes a partner therein: and whoever recommends and helps an evil cause shares in its burden"

AS MY PERSONAL OPINION IF SOMETHING IS CLEAR TO ME THROUGH QURAN THEN I WILL FOLLOW IT..

IN ANSWER EVERYTHING IS ACCEPTABLE THROUGH ALLAH's QURAAN AND MOHAMMAD's (PBUH) FARMAAN.. MAY ALLAH GUIDE US THE RIGHT PATH JAZAAK ALLAH

AYAZ
11-20-2012, 01:07 AM
Quran Paak mei Niyaz ko mana nahi kara kahi bhi. Hayyan nie jo di hie reference wo aus sei matlab out kar rahey hie ke ais sei yeh sabit hota hie ? clear mana nahi hai hum aus sei khud sei meaning out kar rahey hei ke aesa hei tou ais ka matlab yeh hie.

Aur hayyan har topic ka alag sei thread banana. Aik hi thread mei sub topic dalo gei tou wo mixup hojaey ga

Hayyan_Memon
11-20-2012, 01:18 AM
Quran Paak mei Niyaz ko mana nahi kara kahi bhi. Hayyan nie jo di hie reference wo aus sei matlab out kar rahey hie ke ais sei yeh sabit hota hie ? clear mana nahi hai hum aus sei khud sei meaning out kar rahey hei ke aesa hei tou ais ka matlab yeh hie.

Aur hayyan har topic ka alag sei thread banana. Aik hi thread mei sub topic dalo gei tou wo mixup hojaey ga

JAZAAK ALLAH AYAZ..
PLEASE IF YOU CAN GIVE ME MEANING OF THIS AYAH I WILL BE VERY THANKFUL

"Forbidden to you (for food) are: dead meat blood the flesh of swine and that on which hath been invoked the name of other than Allah"

I NEVER SAID NIYAZ IS HARAAM.. I SAID NIYAZ IS FOR ALLAH NOT FOR ANYONE ELSE ON ANY WALI"ALLAH OR ANY AULIYAH. OR ANY SPECIAL DAY WHICH ARE RECOMMENDED ON THEM..JAZAAK ALLAH

IN ANSWER EVERYTHING IS ACCEPTABLE THROUGH ALLAH's QURAAN AND MOHAMMAD's (PBUH) FARMAAN.

Hayyan_Memon
11-20-2012, 01:22 AM
aur issi wajah say main starting main niyaz ki defination batai hay.. Jo ke clear karti hay ke main kiss meaning ki base par yeh baat kar raha hoon.. Allah ke name par niyaz do acceptable but masla us par nahi masla is par hay jo ke ajkal humaray mashray main ho raha hay.. Kissi din ya kissi auliya ko base bana kar niyaz hooti hay..

Stollen Heart
11-20-2012, 01:40 AM
"Whoever recommends and helps a good cause becomes a partner therein: and whoever recommends and helps an evil cause shares in its burden"

Kisi bhi ayet ko smjhne ke liye us ki back ground men jana zarori hota hey, Jub tak yeh pata nhi chalega keh yeh ayet kub nazil hoi, kion nazil hoi, ur wo kiya halaat thay jin ki wajah se yeh ayet nazil hoi, Ur yeh ayet directly kin ki tarf ishara ker rhi hey ur indirectly is ayet ko kin kin baton pe laagu kiya jaa skta hey, us waqt tak hum clear nhi honge,

Yeh ayet us waqt nazil hoi jub logon ki yeh quran e pak pe yaqeen nhi aa rha tha keh yeh Allah ki kitaab hey, ur wo Rasool e pak (Peace be uopn him) ke bare men ajeeb o gareeb baten kerte thay, ur afwah'en phelate thay, jin ki wajah se Rasool e Pak (Peace be upon him) je saath jo nai nai log thay wo preshaan ho jate thay,

Aise men jo sache muslaman thay wo to in ki baton pe kaan nhi dherte thay, Ur Allah ur Rasool e Pak (peace be upon him) ki baton pe amal kerte thay, ur apni poori force ke sath logon ko Allah ki tarf bul rhe thay,

Aise men jo log afwah'en phelaate thay wo logon ko Allah se door kerne ki koshish kerte thay,

In halaat men phir yeh ayet nazil hoi keh jis ka mafhom hey keh yeh apni apni pasand ur apna apna naseb hey keh koi Allah ki rah men koshish kare ur haq ko ser buland kerne ke liye logon ko daawat de, ur is ka ajer us ko milega, ur koi Allah ke bandon ko galtfehmiyon men daalne, in ki himmaten past kerne ur un ko Allah ki rah se bhatkane me apna zor lagay to us ko saza milegi.

So yahan pe eik amal ki baat ho rhi hey, keh 2 terha ke amal ho rhe hen, ur dono amal saaf dikhai de rhe hen, Eik amal Allah ke raaste ki tarf jane bulane wala hey, ur dosra amal Allah ke raaste se rokne wala hey, Hum in ka amal dekh ke failsa ker skte hen keh kon theek hey ur kon galt, Un ki niyet ka haal to Allah ko hi pata hey,

Aise hi ager me kisi ki help kerta hon ur me ko pata hota hey keh wo jhoot bol rha hey is ke bawjood me ki niyet saaf hoti hey, me is ke dil ke ander nhi jhank skta keh kion wo me se jhoot bol rha hey, so me us ki Allah ke liye help ker donga, ur Allah se us kaam ki ajar ki umeed rakhonga,

Haan ager me ko pata chale keh koi heroin peeta hey ur wo me se heroin ke liye paise maang rha hey kuch jhot bol ke to me us ki help nhi kronga, ager me us ki help kronga to us ka matlab hoga keh me bhi us ke gunah men apna hissa daal rha hon,

Hayyan_Memon
11-20-2012, 01:54 AM
Kisi bhi ayet ko smjhne ke liye us ki back ground men jana zarori hota hey, Jub tak yeh pata nhi chalega keh yeh ayet kub nazil hoi, kion nazil hoi, ur wo kiya halaat thay jin ki wajah se yeh ayet nazil hoi, Ur yeh ayet directly kin ki tarf ishara ker rhi hey ur indirectly is ayet ko kin kin baton pe laagu kiya jaa skta hey, us waqt tak hum clear nhi honge,

Yeh ayet us waqt nazil hoi jub logon ki yeh quran e pak pe yaqeen nhi aa rha tha keh yeh Allah ki kitaab hey, ur wo Rasool e pak (Peace be uopn him) ke bare men ajeeb o gareeb baten kerte thay, ur afwah'en phelate thay, jin ki wajah se Rasool e Pak (Peace be upon him) je saath jo nai nai log thay wo preshaan ho jate thay,

Aise men jo sache muslaman thay wo to in ki baton pe kaan nhi dherte thay, Ur Allah ur Rasool e Pak (peace be upon him) ki baton pe amal kerte thay, ur apni poori force ke sath logon ko Allah ki tarf bul rhe thay,

Aise men jo log afwah'en phelaate thay wo logon ko Allah se door kerne ki koshish kerte thay,

In halaat men phir yeh ayet nazil hoi keh jis ka mafhom hey keh yeh apni apni pasand ur apna apna naseb hey keh koi Allah ki rah men koshish kare ur haq ko ser buland kerne ke liye logon ko daawat de, ur is ka ajer us ko milega, ur koi Allah ke bandon ko galtfehmiyon men daalne, in ki himmaten past kerne ur un ko Allah ki rah se bhatkane me apna zor lagay to us ko saza milegi.

So yahan pe eik amal ki baat ho rhi hey, keh 2 terha ke amal ho rhe hen, ur dono amal saaf dikhai de rhe hen, Eik amal Allah ke raaste ki tarf jane bulane wala hey, ur dosra amal Allah ke raaste se rokne wala hey, Hum in ka amal dekh ke failsa ker skte hen keh kon theek hey ur kon galt, Un ki niyet ka haal to Allah ko hi pata hey,

Aise hi ager me kisi ki help kerta hon ur me ko pata hota hey keh wo jhoot bol rha hey is ke bawjood me ki niyet saaf hoti hey, me is ke dil ke ander nhi jhank skta keh kion wo me se jhoot bol rha hey, so me us ki Allah ke liye help ker donga, ur Allah se us kaam ki ajar ki umeed rakhonga,

Haan ager me ko pata chale keh koi heroin peeta hey ur wo me se heroin ke liye paise maang rha hey kuch jhot bol ke to me us ki help nhi kronga, ager me us ki help kronga to us ka matlab hoga keh me bhi us ke gunah men apna hissa daal rha hon,

JAZAAK ALLAH.. QURAAN KI AYAT KIS WAJAH SAY KIS BAAT PAR NAZIL HOIN.. PHIR MERI AIK CHOUTI SI GUZARISH HAY KE POORA QURAAN US WAQT KE UNHI HALAAT PAR NAZIL HOWA THA.. KABHI KUFFAR KE MAKKAH KI AIK HARKAT KO WAZAH KIYA JA RAHA THA AUR ROKA JA RAHA THA.. KABHI KISSI DOSRI HARKAT KO.. AB BAAT YEH HAY KE AGAR HUM YEH KAHAIN KE YEH AYAH SIRF UN LOGOON KI UN HARKAAT KI WAJAH SAY NAZIL HOI THIN.. TAU PHIR DEEN E ISLAAM KIS KE LIYE NAZIL HOWA HAY ? AIK SIMPLE SI BAAT HAY..

Ab meeri zara baat par goor karna.. agar apnay quraan ka tarjuma aur tafseer parhi hay brother tau beshak app understand kar loo gayy.. quraan main har kisam ki ayah hain.. kai aisi ayah hain jin main ALLAH nay hukam diya hay direct. kai aisi hain jin main ALLAH nay warn kiya hay ya mana kiya hay.. kai aisi ayah hain jin main pichli qoomoo ki misalain hain.. Agar app deeply daikhoo tau apko pata chalay gaa ke quraan ka total content ussi door ke Hawalay say nazil hoowa.. Magar Aisa kiyaa ke humain us door ki jin cheezoon say agree karna hay unko rakh lain.. aur jinsay agree nahi karna woo uss door ke waqiyaat ki bina par side par rakh dain..

IN ANSWER EVERYTHING IS ACCEPTABLE THROUGH ALLAH's QURAAN AND PROPHET (PBUH) FARMAAN

JAZAAK ALLAH BROTHER

AYAZ
11-20-2012, 01:55 AM
JAZAAK ALLAH AYAZ..
PLEASE IF YOU CAN GIVE ME MEANING OF THIS AYAH I WILL BE VERY THANKFUL

"Forbidden to you (for food) are: dead meat blood the flesh of swine and that on which hath been invoked the name of other than Allah"

I NEVER SAID NIYAZ IS HARAAM.. I SAID NIYAZ IS FOR ALLAH NOT FOR ANYONE ELSE ON ANY WALI"ALLAH OR ANY AULIYAH. OR ANY SPECIAL DAY WHICH ARE RECOMMENDED ON THEM..JAZAAK ALLAH

IN ANSWER EVERYTHING IS ACCEPTABLE THROUGH ALLAH's QURAAN AND MOHAMMAD's (PBUH) FARMAAN.


But I think you took it wrong. Those who do Niyaz is for Isal-e-Sawaab and It's Isale-sawab ais jaiz

Hayyan_Memon
11-20-2012, 01:59 AM
but i think you took it wrong. Those who do niyaz is for isal-e-sawaab and it's isale-sawab ais jaiz

jazaak allah.. Yes ishal e sawaab is jaiz through three ways.. Which is explained through quraan.. And i will discuss it on next tread.. But there is nothing niyaz is mention on the name of other then Allah.. Or on there occasional days if it is jaiz through quraan then i will surely accept it with apologize please quote me some verses..

Stollen Heart
11-20-2012, 02:13 AM
JAZAAK ALLAH.. QURAAN KI AYAT KIS WAJAH SAY KIS BAAT PAR NAZIL HOIN.. PHIR MERI AIK CHOUTI SI GUZARISH HAY KE POORA QURAAN US WAQT KE UNHI HALAAT PAR NAZIL HOWA THA.. KABHI KUFFAR KE MAKKAH KI AIK HARKAT KO WAZAH KIYA JA RAHA THA AUR ROKA JA RAHA THA.. KABHI KISSI DOSRI HARKAT KO.. AB BAAT YEH HAY KE AGAR HUM YEH KAHAIN KE YEH AYAH SIRF UN LOGOON KI UN HARKAAT KI WAJAH SAY NAZIL HOI THIN.. TAU PHIR DEEN E ISLAAM KIS KE LIYE NAZIL HOWA HAY ? AIK SIMPLE SI BAAT HAY..

Ab meeri zara baat par goor karna.. agar apnay quraan ka tarjuma aur tafseer parhi hay brother tau beshak app understand kar loo gayy.. quraan main har kisam ki ayah hain.. kai aisi ayah hain jin main ALLAH nay hukam diya hay direct. kai aisi hain jin main ALLAH nay warn kiya hay ya mana kiya hay.. kai aisi ayah hain jin main pichli qoomoo ki misalain hain.. Agar app deeply daikhoo tau apko pata chalay gaa ke quraan ka total content ussi door ke Hawalay say nazil hoowa.. Magar Aisa kiyaa ke humain us door ki jin cheezoon say agree karna hay unko rakh lain.. aur jinsay agree nahi karna woo uss door ke waqiyaat ki bina par side par rakh dain..

IN ANSWER EVERYTHING IS ACCEPTABLE THROUGH ALLAH's QURAAN AND PROPHET (PBUH) FARMAAN

JAZAAK ALLAH BROTHER

Kisi bhi ayet ko smjhne ke liye us ki back ground men jana zarori hota hey, Jub tak yeh pata nhi chalega keh yeh ayet kub nazil hoi, kion nazil hoi, ur wo kiya halaat thay jin ki wajah se yeh ayet nazil hoi, Ur yeh ayet directly kin ki tarf ishara ker rhi hey ur indirectly is ayet ko kin kin baton pe laagu kiya jaa skta hey, us waqt tak hum clear nhi honge,

Is paragraph ko thora sa dheyan se perhen to is ke second last sentence men u ki sub baton ka jawab hey,

Hayyan_Memon
11-20-2012, 02:25 AM
Kisi bhi ayet ko smjhne ke liye us ki back ground men jana zarori hota hey, Jub tak yeh pata nhi chalega keh yeh ayet kub nazil hoi, kion nazil hoi, ur wo kiya halaat thay jin ki wajah se yeh ayet nazil hoi, Ur yeh ayet directly kin ki tarf ishara ker rhi hey ur indirectly is ayet ko kin kin baton pe laagu kiya jaa skta hey, us waqt tak hum clear nhi honge,

Is paragraph ko thora sa dheyan se perhen to is ke second last sentence men u ki sub baton ka jawab hey,

JAZAAK ALLAH BROTHER.. Main nay apki baat ko fully understand kiya hay.. issi wajah say kaha hayy.. ke ALLAH talah kai Aisay hukam thay jo Un halaat ki wajah say diye thayy.. like sharaab ko Haraam kion kaha tha ? uski background bhi zara pata kar letay hain.. phir hum yeh kahaingay ke wo us background par fit hooti thi .. ALLAH ka Hukam is full and final and app jo baat kah rahay hoo.. wo Amal par lagoo hooti hay.. Like NAMAAZ ka hukam hayy Tau namaaz ka tareeka ? aur Rahi baat apki is baat ki ke kiss wajah say yeh AYAT Nazil hoi thin.. Tau is waqt tau Bohat dair hoo gai hay inshaALLAH Kal main iin AYAAT ki poori TAFSEER bhi paish karoonga ? okie brother ?

JAZAAK ALLAH

Hayyan_Memon
11-20-2012, 04:27 PM
As Salam O Alikum wR wB

As per yesterday promise im gonna explain the background point which brother stolen raised yesterday and out of content point of AYAZ

First im going to start from the AYAH which Brother stolen said to study its background

Quraan
Surat An-Nisā' (The Women) - سورة النساء 4:85

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Whoever intercedes for a good cause will have a reward therefrom; and whoever intercedes for an evil cause will have a burden therefrom. And ever is Allah , over all things, a Keeper.

Now YEsterday Brother Stolen told us some explaination about this Ayah through Kuffar E Makka's Refference jo ke Quraan par belive nahi kar rahay thay.. unke explaination yeh thi


Yeh ayet us waqt nazil hoi jub logon ki yeh quran e pak pe yaqeen nhi aa rha tha keh yeh Allah ki kitaab hey, ur wo Rasool e pak (Peace be uopn him) ke bare men ajeeb o gareeb baten kerte thay, ur afwah'en phelate thay, jin ki wajah se Rasool e Pak (Peace be upon him) je saath jo nai nai log thay wo preshaan ho jate thay,

Aise men jo sache muslaman thay wo to in ki baton pe kaan nhi dherte thay, Ur Allah ur Rasool e Pak (peace be upon him) ki baton pe amal kerte thay, ur apni poori force ke sath logon ko Allah ki tarf bul rhe thay,

Aise men jo log afwah'en phelaate thay wo logon ko Allah se door kerne ki koshish kerte thay,

In halaat men phir yeh ayet nazil hoi keh jis ka mafhom hey keh yeh apni apni pasand ur apna apna naseb hey keh koi Allah ki rah men koshish kare ur haq ko ser buland kerne ke liye logon ko daawat de, ur is ka ajer us ko milega, ur koi Allah ke bandon ko galtfehmiyon men daalne, in ki himmaten past kerne ur un ko Allah ki rah se bhatkane me apna zor lagay to us ko saza milegi.

So yahan pe eik amal ki baat ho rhi hey, keh 2 terha ke amal ho rhe hen, ur dono amal saaf dikhai de rhe hen, Eik amal Allah ke raaste ki tarf jane bulane wala hey, ur dosra amal Allah ke raaste se rokne wala hey, Hum in ka amal dekh ke failsa ker skte hen keh kon theek hey ur kon galt, Un ki niyet ka haal to Allah ko hi pata hey

MashaALLAH Stolen Bhai nay Bohat Achay Andaaz main explain kiya But Let me Tell My brother And Sisters about Surah E Nissa

Al-Awfi reported that Ibn Abbas said that;

Surah An-Nisa' was revealed in Al-Madinah.

Ibn Marduwyah recorded similar statements from Abdullah bin Az-Zubayr and Zayd bin Thabit.

In his Mustadrak, Al-Hakim recorded that Abdullah bin Mas`ud said,

"There are five Ayat in Surah An-Nisa' that I would prefer to the life of this world and all that is in it,

إِنَّ اللّهَ لاَ يَظْلِمُ مِثْقَالَ ذَرَّةٍ

Surely, Allah wrongs not even the weight of an atom. (4:40),

إِن تَجْتَنِبُواْ كَبَآئِرَ مَا تُنْهَوْنَ عَنْهُ نُكَفِّرْ عَنكُمْ سَيِّئَاتِكُمْ

If you avoid the great sins which you are forbidden to do. (4:31)

إِنَّ اللّهَ لاَ يَغْفِرُ أَن يُشْرَكَ بِهِ وَيَغْفِرُ مَا دُونَ ذَلِكَ لِمَن يَشَاء

Verily, Allah forgives not that partners should be set up with Him (in worship), but He forgives except that (anything else) to whom He wills. (4:48)

وَلَوْ أَنَّهُمْ إِذ ظَّلَمُواْ أَنفُسَهُمْ جَآؤُوكَ

If they (hypocrites), when they had been unjust to themselves, had come to you. (4:64)

and,

وَمَن يَعْمَلْ سُوءًا أَوْ يَظْلِمْ نَفْسَهُ ثُمَّ يَسْتَغْفِرِ اللّهَ يَجِدِ اللّهَ غَفُورًا رَّحِيمًا

And whoever does evil or wrongs himself, but afterwards seeks Allah's forgiveness, he will find Allah Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. (4:110)''

Al-Hakim recorded that Ibn Abbas said,

"Ask me about Surah An-Nisa', for I learned the Qur'an when I was still young.''

Al-Hakim said,

"This Hadith is Sahih according to the criteria of the Two Sahihs, and they did not collect it.''



First the above explanation is taken from Tafsir Ibne Kathir the commonly used tafsir by almost every Fiqqa Except Ahle Tasheeh. The above Ayah is revealed in Madina not in Makkah soo there is no Mushrikeen E Makka in madina that time..
Second thing the Tafsir is ab Jihaad and not the things you told in your explaination

IM GOING TO PASTE SOME AYAH's BEFORE THIS AYAH AND AFTER THIS AYAH.

فَقَاتِلْ فِى سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ لاَ تُكَلَّفُ إِلاَّ نَفْسَكَ وَحَرِّضِ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ عَسَى اللَّهُ أَن يَكُفَّ بَأْسَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ

4:84 Then fight in the cause of Allah, you are not tasked (held responsible) except for yourself, and incite the believers (to fight along with you), it may be that Allah will restrain the evil might of the disbelievers.

وَاللَّهُ أَشَدُّ بَأْساً وَأَشَدُّ تَنكِيلاً

And Allah is Stronger in might and Stronger in punishing.

مَّن يَشْفَعْ شَفَـعَةً حَسَنَةً يَكُنْ لَّهُ نَصِيبٌ مِّنْهَا وَمَن يَشْفَعْ شَفَـعَةً سَيِّئَةً يَكُنْ لَّهُ كِفْلٌ مَّنْهَا

4:85 Whosoever intercedes for a good cause, will have the reward thereof; and whosoever intercedes for an evil cause, will have a share in its burden.

وَكَانَ اللَّهُ عَلَى كُلِّ شَىْءٍ مُّقِيتاً

And Allah is Ever All-Able to do everything.

وَإِذَا حُيِّيتُم بِتَحِيَّةٍ فَحَيُّواْ بِأَحْسَنَ مِنْهَآ أَوْ رُدُّوهَآ

4:86 When you are greeted with a greeting, greet in return with what is better than it, or (at least) return it equally.

إِنَّ اللَّهَ كَانَ عَلَى كُلِّ شَىْءٍ حَسِيباً

Certainly, Allah is Ever a Careful Account Taker of all things.

اللَّهُ لا إِلَـهَ إِلاَّ هُوَ

4:87 Allah! None has the right to be worshipped but He.

لَيَجْمَعَنَّكُمْ إِلَى يَوْمِ الْقِيَـمَةِ لاَ رَيْبَ فِيهِ وَمَنْ أَصْدَقُ مِنَ اللَّهِ حَدِيثاً

Surely, He will gather you together on the Day of Resurrection about which there is no doubt. And who is truer in statement than Allah


NOW TAFSEER OF ABOVE AYAH's



Allah commands;

فَقَاتِلْ فِي سَبِيلِ اللّهِ ...

Then fight in the cause of Allah,

Allah commands His servant and Messenger, Muhammad , to himself fight in Jihad and not to be concerned about those who do not join Jihad.

Hence Allah's statement,

... لاَ تُكَلَّفُ إِلاَّ نَفْسَكَ ...

you are not tasked (held responsible) except for yourself,

Ibn Abi Hatim recorded that Abu Ishaq said,

"I asked Al-Bara bin Azib about a man who meets a hundred enemies and still fights them, would he be one of those referred to in Allah's statement, وَلاَ تُلْقُواْ بِأَيْدِيكُمْ إِلَى التَّهْلُكَةِ (And do not throw yourselves into destruction (by not spending your wealth in the cause of Allah). (2:195)

He said, `Allah said to His Prophet,

فَقَاتِلْ فِي سَبِيلِ اللّهِ لاَ تُكَلَّفُ إِلاَّ نَفْسَكَ وَحَرِّضِ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ (Then fight in the cause of Allah, you are not tasked (held responsible) except for yourself, and incite the believers (to fight along with you)).''

Imam Ahmad recorded Sulayman bin Dawud saying that Abu Bakr bin Ayyash said that Abu Ishaq said,

"I asked Al-Bara, `If a man attacks the lines of the idolators, would he be throwing himself to destruction?'

He said, `No, because Allah has sent His Messenger and commanded him, فَقَاتِلْ فِي سَبِيلِ اللّهِ لاَ تُكَلَّفُ إِلاَّ نَفْسَكَ (Then fight in the cause of Allah, you are not tasked (held responsible) except for yourself).

That Ayah is about spending (in Allah's cause).''

Inciting the Believers to Fight

Allah said,

... وَحَرِّضِ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ ...

and incite the believers,

to fight, by encouraging them and strengthening their resolve in this regard.

For instance, the Prophet said to the believers at the battle of Badr, while organizing their lines,

قُومُوا إِلى جَنَّةٍ عَرْضُهَا السَّموَاتُ وَالْأَرْض

Stand up and march forth to a Paradise, as wide as the heavens and Earth.

There are many Hadiths that encourage Jihad.

Al-Bukhari recorded that Abu Hurayrah said that the Messenger of Allah said,

مَنْ آمَنَ بِاللهِ وَرَسُولِهِ، وَأَقَامَ الصَّلَاةَ، وَآتَى الزَّكَاةَ، وَصَامَ رَمَضَانَ، كَانَ حَقًّا عَلَى اللهِ أَنْ يُدْخِلَهُ الْجَنَّـةَ، هَاجَرَ فِي سَبِيلِ اللهِ أَوْ جَلَسَ فِي أَرْضِهِ الَّتِي وُلِدَ فِيهَا

Whoever believes in Allah and His Messenger, offers prayer, pays the Zakah and fasts the month of Ramadan, will rightfully be granted Paradise by Allah, no matter whether he migrates in Allah's cause or remains in the land where he is born.

The people said, `O Allah's Messenger! Shall we acquaint the people with this good news!'

He said,

إِنَّ فِي الْجَنَّـةِ مِائَةَ دَرَجَةٍ أَعَدَّهَا اللهُ لِلْمُجَاهِدِينَ فِي سَبِيلِ اللهِ، بَيْنَ كُلِّ دَرَجَتَيْنِ كَمَا بَيْنَ السَّمَاءِ وَالْأَرْضِ، فَإِذَا سَأَلْتُمُ اللهَ فَاسْأَلُوهُ الْفِرْدَوْسَ، فَإِنَّهُ وَسَطُ الْجَنَّةِ، وَأَعْلَى الْجَنَّةِ، وَفَوْقَهُ عَرْشُ الرَّحْمنِ، وَمِنْهُ تَفَجَّرُ أَنْهَارُ الْجَنَّة

Paradise has one hundred grades which Allah has reserved for the Mujahidin who fight in His cause, the distance between each two grades is like the distance between the heaven and the Earth. So, when you ask Allah, ask for Al-Firdaws, which is the best and highest part of Paradise, above it is the Throne of the Most Beneficent (Allah) and from it originate the rivers of Paradise.

There are various narrations for this Hadith from Ubadah, Mu`adh, and Abu Ad-Darda'.

Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri narrated that the Messenger of Allah said,

يَا أَبَا سَعِيدٍ مَنْ رَضِيَ بِاللهِ رَبًّا، وَبِالْإِسْلَامِ دِينًا، وَبِمُحَمَّدٍصلى الله عليه وسلّم نَبِيًّا، وَجَبَتْ لَهُ الْجَنَّـة

O Abu Sa`id! Whoever accepts Allah as his Lord, Islam as his religion and Muhammad as the Prophet, then he would rightfully acquire Paradise.

Abu Sa`id liked these words and said, "O Allah's Messenger! Repeat them for me.''

The Prophet repeated his words, then said,

وَأُخْرَى يَرْفَعُ اللهُ الْعَبْدَبِهَا مِائَةَ دَرَجَةٍ فِي الْجَنَّـةِ، مَا بَيْنَ كُلِّ دَرَجَتَيْنِ كَمَا بَيْنَ السَّمَاءِ وَالْأَرْض

And (there is) another deed for which Allah raises the servant a hundred grades in Paradise, between each two grades is the distance between heaven and Earth.

Abu Sa`id said, "What is it, O Allah's Messenger!''

He said,

الْجِهَادُ فِي سَبِيلِ الله

Jihad in Allah's cause.

This Hadith was collected by Muslim.

Allah's statement,

... عَسَى اللّهُ أَن يَكُفَّ بَأْسَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ ...

it may be that Allah will restrain the evil might of the disbelievers.

means, by your encouraging them to fight, their resolve will be strengthened to meet the enemy in battle, to defend Islam and its people and to endure and be patient against the enemy.

Allah's statement,

... وَاللّهُ أَشَدُّ بَأْسًا وَأَشَدُّ تَنكِيلاً ﴿٨٤﴾

And Allah is Stronger in might and Stronger in punishing.

means, He is able over them in this life and the Hereafter, just as He said in another Ayah,

ذَلِكَ وَلَوْ يَشَآءُ اللَّهُ لاَنْتَصَرَ مِنْهُمْ وَلَـكِن لِّيَبْلُوَ بَعْضَكُمْ بِبَعْضٍ

But if it had been Allah's will, He Himself could certainly have punished them (without you). But (He lets you fight) in order to test some of you with others. (47:4)

Interceding for a Good or an Evil Cause

Allah said,

مَّن يَشْفَعْ شَفَاعَةً حَسَنَةً يَكُن لَّهُ نَصِيبٌ مِّنْهَا ...

Whosoever intercedes for a good cause, will have the reward thereof;

meaning, whoever intercedes in a matter that produces good results, will acquire a share in that good.

... وَمَن يَشْفَعْ شَفَاعَةً سَيِّئَةً يَكُن لَّهُ كِفْلٌ مِّنْهَا ...

And whosoever intercedes for an evil cause, will have a share in its burden.

meaning, he will carry a burden due to what resulted from his intercession and intention.

For instance, it is recorded in the Sahih that the Prophet said,

اشْفَعُوا تُؤْجَرُوا، وَيَقْضِي اللهُ عَلى لِسَانِ نَبِيِّهِ مَا شَاء

Intercede and you will gain a reward of it. Yet, Allah shall decide whatever He wills by the words of His Prophet.

Mujahid bin Jabr said,

"This Ayah was revealed about the intercession of people on behalf of each other.''

Allah then said,

... وَكَانَ اللّهُ عَلَى كُلِّ شَيْءٍ مُّقِيتًا ﴿٨٥﴾

And Allah is Ever Muqit over everything.

Ibn Abbas, Ata, Atiyah, Qatadah and Matar Al-Warraq said that,

مُّقِيتًا (Muqit) means, "Watcher.''

Mujahid said that;

Muqit means, `Witness', and in another narration, `Able to do.'

Returning the Salam, With a Better Salam

Allah said,

وَإِذَا حُيِّيْتُم بِتَحِيَّةٍ فَحَيُّواْ بِأَحْسَنَ مِنْهَا أَوْ رُدُّوهَا ...

When you are greeted with a greeting, greet in return with what is better than it, or (at least) return it equally.

meaning, if the Muslim greets you with the Salam, then return the greeting with a better Salam, or at least equal to the Salam that was given. Therefore, the better Salam is recommended, while returning it equally is an obligation.

Imam Ahmad recorded that Abu Raja Al-Utaridi said that;

Imran bin Husayn said that a man came to the Messenger of Allah and said, "As-Salamu Alaykum''.

The Prophet returned the greeting, and after the man sat down he said, "Ten.''

Another man came and said, "As-Salamu Alaykum wa Rahmatullah, O Allah's Messenger.''

The Prophet returned the greeting, and after the man sat down he said, "Twenty.''

Then another man came and said, "As-Salamu Alaykum wa Rahmatullah wa Barakatuh.''

The Prophet returned the greeting, and after the man sat down he said, "Thirty.''

This is the narration recorded by Abu Dawud. At-Tirmidhi, An-Nasa'i and Al-Bazzar also recorded it.

At-Tirmidhi said, "Hasan Gharib''.

There are several other Hadiths on this subject from Abu Sa`id, Ali, and Sahl bin Hanif. When the Muslim is greeted with the full form of Salam, he is obliged to return the greeting equally.

As for Ahl Adh-Dhimmah the Salam should not be initiated nor should the greeting be added to when returning their greeting. Rather, as recorded in the Two Sahihs their greeting is returned to them equally.

Ibn Umar narrated that the Messenger of Allah said,

إِذَا سَلَّمَ عَلَيْكُمُ الْيَهُودُ، فَإِنَّمَا يَقُولُ أَحَدُهُمْ: السَّامُ عَلَيْكَ، فَقُلْ: وَعَلَيْك

When the Jews greet you, one of them would say, `As-Samu `Alayka (death be unto you).'

Therefore, say, `Wa `Alayka (and the same to you).')

In his Sahih, Muslim recorded that Abu Hurayrah said that the Messenger of Allah said,

لَا تَبْدَأُوا الْيَهُودَ وَالنَّصَارَى بِالسَّلَامِ، وَإِذَا لَقِيتُمُوهُمْ فِي طَرِيقٍ فَاضْطَرُّوهُمْ إِلى أَضْيَقِه

Do not initiate greeting the Jews and Christians with the Salam, and when you pass by them on a road, force them to its narrowest path.

Abu Dawud recorded that Abu Hurayrah said that the Messenger of Allah said,

وَالَّذِي نَفْسِي بِيَدِهِ، لَا تَدْخُلُوا الْجَنَّـةَ حَتَّى تُؤْمِنُوا، وَلَا تُؤْمِنُوا حَتَّى تَحَابُّوا، أَفَلَا أَدُلُّكُمْ عَلَى أَمْرٍ إِذَا فَعَلْتُمُوهُ تَحَابَبْتُمْ؟ أَفْشُوا السَّلَامَ بَيْنَكُم

By He in Whose Hand is my soul! You will not enter Paradise until you believe, and you will not believe until you love each other. Should I direct you to an action that would direct you to love each other! Spread the Salam among yourselves.

... إِنَّ اللّهَ كَانَ عَلَى كُلِّ شَيْءٍ حَسِيبًا ﴿٨٦﴾

Certainly, Allah is Ever a Careful Account Taker of all things.

Allah said,

اللّهُ لا إِلَـهَ إِلاَّ هُوَ ...

Allah! none has the right to be worshipped but He.

informing that He is singled out as the sole God of all creation.

Allah then said,

... لَيَجْمَعَنَّكُمْ إِلَى يَوْمِ الْقِيَامَةِ لاَ رَيْبَ فِيهِ ...

Surely, He will gather you together on the Day of Resurrection about which there is no doubt.

swearing that He will gather the earlier and latter generations in one area, rewarding or punishing each person according to his or her actions.

Allah said,

... وَمَنْ أَصْدَقُ مِنَ اللّهِ حَدِيثًا ﴿٨٧﴾

And who is truer in statement than Allah.

meaning, no one utters more truthful statements than Allah, in His promise, warning, stories of the past and information of what is to come; there is no deity worthy of worship nor Lord except Him.


NOTE: THROUGH ABOVE EXPLANATION I THINK THIS IS ENOUGH TO JUSTIFY MY POINT BUT I CAN PROVIDE EVEN MORE.. MY BROTHER'S AND SISTERS FIRST THING IF YOU OBEY ALLAH BY ONLY KNOWING THE TIME AND REASON OF THIS ORDER IS GIVEN THEN LET ME ASK SOME QUESTIONS. WHY YOU PRAY NAMAAZ THERE IS ALSO A BACKGROUND EXPLANATION FOR THE ORDER OF NAMAAZ BY ALLAH. WHY YOU PAY ZAKAAT THERE IS ALSO A BACKGROUND EXPLANATION FOR THE ORDER OF ZAKAAT BY ALLAH.

WHY DONT WE PPLZ ASK THE SITUATION OF ORDERS ON OTHER THINGS WHY WE ALWAYS ASK THIS ON THE THINGS WHICH WE DONT WANT TO AGREE.. ALLAH's ORDER IS A FINAL ORDER AND THERE IS NO EXCUSE NOT TO OBEY HIS ORDER

MAY ALLAH GUIDE US TO RIGHT PATH.
IN ANSWER EVERYTHING IS ACCEPTABLE THROUGH ALLAH's QURAAN AND MOHAMMAD's (PBUH) FARMAAN

Hayyan_Memon
11-20-2012, 05:01 PM
Quran Paak mei Niyaz ko mana nahi kara kahi bhi. Hayyan nie jo di hie reference wo aus sei matlab out kar rahey hie ke ais sei yeh sabit hota hie ? clear mana nahi hai hum aus sei khud sei meaning out kar rahey hei ke aesa hei tou ais ka matlab yeh hie.

Aur hayyan har topic ka alag sei thread banana. Aik hi thread mei sub topic dalo gei tou wo mixup hojaey ga

As Salam O Alikum wR wB
First i have answered to My brother Stolen's Questioned point. Now Brother AYAZ said About the Out of Meaning Discussion. Now i'm going to explain this Not from one but more den 4 times ALLAH Said the same thing in QURAAN


Surat Al-Baqarah (The Cow) - سورة البقرة 2:173

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He has only forbidden to you dead animals, blood, the flesh of swine, and that which has been dedicated to other than Allah . But whoever is forced [by necessity], neither desiring [it] nor transgressing [its limit], there is no sin upon him. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.


Surat Al-'An`ām (The Cattle) - سورة الأنعام 6:145

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Say, "I do not find within that which was revealed to me [anything] forbidden to one who would eat it unless it be a dead animal or blood spilled out or the flesh of swine - for indeed, it is impure - or it be [that slaughtered in] disobedience, dedicated to other than Allah . But whoever is forced [by necessity], neither desiring [it] nor transgressing [its limit], then indeed, your Lord is Forgiving and Merciful."


Surat An-Naĥl (The Bee) - سورة النحل 16:115

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He has only forbidden to you dead animals, blood, the flesh of swine, and that which has been dedicated to other than Allah . But whoever is forced [by necessity], neither desiring [it] nor transgressing [its limit] - then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.


Surat Al-Mā'idah (The Table Spread) - سورة المائدة 5:3

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Prohibited to you are dead animals, blood, the flesh of swine, and that which has been dedicated to other than Allah , and [those animals] killed by strangling or by a violent blow or by a head-long fall or by the goring of horns, and those from which a wild animal has eaten, except what you [are able to] slaughter [before its death], and those which are sacrificed on stone altars, and [prohibited is] that you seek decision through divining arrows. That is grave disobedience. This day those who disbelieve have despaired of [defeating] your religion; so fear them not, but fear Me. This day I have perfected for you your religion and completed My favor upon you and have approved for you Islam as religion. But whoever is forced by severe hunger with no inclination to sin - then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.



PLEASE ITS MY REQUEST TO CLEAR ME THE MEANING OF ABOVE AYAH IF IM WRONG.. AND AS PER MY PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE THERE IS NOTHING WRONG IN ABOVE AYAH.. ITS A SIMPLE ORDER BY ALLAH NOT TO EAT ANYTHING WHICH IS ON THE NAME OF OTHER THEN ALLAH. NOT EVEN ON SOME PERSON'S SPECIAL OCCASIONAL DAY.. THERE IS NO OPTIONS IN ALLAH's ORDER AND HIS ODERS ARE FULL AND FINAL..

JAZAAK ALLAH
IN ANSWER EVERYTHING IS ACCEPTABLE THROUGH ALLAH's QURAAN AND MOHAMMAD's (PBUH) FARMAAN.

AYAZ
11-23-2012, 03:28 PM
JAZAAK ALLAH AYAZ..
PLEASE IF YOU CAN GIVE ME MEANING OF THIS AYAH I WILL BE VERY THANKFUL

"Forbidden to you (for food) are: dead meat blood the flesh of swine and that on which hath been invoked the name of other than Allah"

I NEVER SAID NIYAZ IS HARAAM.. I SAID NIYAZ IS FOR ALLAH NOT FOR ANYONE ELSE ON ANY WALI"ALLAH OR ANY AULIYAH. OR ANY SPECIAL DAY WHICH ARE RECOMMENDED ON THEM..JAZAAK ALLAH

IN ANSWER EVERYTHING IS ACCEPTABLE THROUGH ALLAH's QURAAN AND MOHAMMAD's (PBUH) FARMAAN.


SAHABA NIAZ KARTE THE -
Hazrat Ali (Radi ALLAHO Anho)ne kia SARKAR (Salallaho alehiwsllam) ke Naam se aik meendha zibah kia kerte thay
Allah ki bargah me.
(Jamay Tirmizi, jild#1,Pg#538. Sunan Abu-Dawood, jild#2,Pg#29)

Qur'an:
Tera Rab khub jaanta hai koun Behka uski Raah se, aur woh khub jaanta hai hidaayat walon ko
"TO KHAAO USME SE JIS PAR ALLAH KA NAAM LIYA GAYAA AGAR TUM USKI AAYAATE MAANTE HO."
Aur tumhe kya hua ke unme se na khao jispar ALLAH ka NAAM liya gaya,
[ SURAH ANA'AM (SURAH.6, PARA.8): 117-119 ]


SAHI MUSLIM, SHA SITTA, BUKHARI SHARIF SAB MY YE HADIS MOJUD HAI
KI
AQA ALEHIS SALAM NEY HAZRAT E HAMZA (RADI YAL LAHO TA ALA ANHO) KI QABR PAR JAKAR UN KO ISAALEY SAWAB KIYA THA
OR APNEY GHAR AAKER KHANEY PAR FATIHA DILWA KAR TAMAM SAHABIYO KO KHILAYA THA

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Niyaz ka khana jaiz hai : Aesi tarah Niyaz per ALLAH ka qalam parh kar phoka jata hai balkey wo barqat wala khana hojata hai tou niyaz ka khana jaiz hia.

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