ملالہ قوم کی بیٹی، کون کون کیش کرائے گا؟

[beyond_vision]

اس میں کیا بحث کہ ایک معصوم اور پیاری بیٹی اپنی خداداد قائدانہ صلاحیت سے سرفراز اپنی بہنوں کو تعلیم ، عزت اور وقار کا حق دلانے باھر نکلی اور اپنی دیگر ساتھیوں سمیت درندوں کی وحشت کا شکار ھو گئی۔ میڈیا کو ایک نئی سٹوری ملی اور لیڈرز کو توجہ ہٹاو مواد۔ رویا تو پھر وھی سچا اور باشعور پاکستانی جس کے آنسو کبھی تھمے ھی نہیں، جو اب لاشیں گننا ہی چھوڑ چکا ھے اور جو اب دن بہ دن ایک خوفناک بے بسی کا شکار ھوتا جا رھا ھے۔ ایک قابل فخر پاکستانی سپوت ڈاکٹر طارق چیمہ کا کہنا ھے کہ وہ اللہ سے دعا کرتے ھیں کی ان کی بیٹی ملالہ کی صف میں کھڑی ھو۔ درد مند شعراء کرام نے لفظوں کے موتی ملالہ پر نچھاور کیے ھیں۔ حکومت اور اپوزیشن تو دکھ کے اظہار کیں سب سے آگے رھے لیکن کیا یہ سب صرف آج ہمارے ساتھ ھوا ہے یا آے دن کی کہانی ھے۔ کل شمالہ مری تھی آج ملالہ زندگی اور موت کی کشمکش میں ھے اور کل پھر کوئی گل لالہ کسی نا کسی درندے کی بھینٹ چڑھے گی۔ اور ھم اسی طرح دوچار دن دکھ اور افسوس کی دکان چمکا کر کسی نئی
بریکنگ سٹوری کا دھڑکا لیے روز مرہ کے کاموں میں خود کو مصروف کر لیں گے۔ کل توہین رسا لت کے ایشو پرآسمان سر پر اٹھا لینے والے ھم آج ملالہ کے لیے تڑپ رھے ھیں اور کل اور کوئی سوگ ھمارے انتظار میں بیٹھا ھماری سادگی پر مسکرا رھا ھوگا۔ سوال یہ ھے کہ امریکہ ،انڈیا یا اسرائیل یا اس مفاد پرست طبقے کی سازشوں کی کہانی بیان کر لینے کے بعد کیا ھم کبھی اپنی صفوں میں بیٹھے اس دشمن تک پہنچ پائیں گے جو صرف ھمارا ھی نہیں بلکہ پوری انسانیت کا دشمن ھے ۔ اور وہ کوئی ایک نہیں پورا گروہ ھے ۔ جسے صرف اپنے منافعے، ٖغرض اور مفاد کے لالچ کے علاوہ کچھ سوجھتا ھی نہیں۔ اس نیٹ ورک کے ممبران عوام سے لیکر ، فوج ، سیاست، صحافت، بیوروکریسی، مزہبی جماعتوں، این جی اوز ،غرض ھر شعبہ ھائے زندگی میں پورے دھڑلے اور سینہ زوری سے موجود ھیں۔ اور اس شعبے میں موجود اچھے لوگوں کے لیے درد سر بننےکے علاوہ دن بہ دن وطن عزیز کی جڑیں کھوکھلی کرتی جا رھے ھیں۔ ھمارا پہلا گلہ حکمرانوں سے اس لیے بنتا ھے کہ اس خوفناک عفریت سے ملک اور قوم کو بچانا ان کی زمہ داری بنتا ھے۔ دوسری زمہ داری ھماری ھے کہ ھم ان مشترکہ دشمنوں کو پہچانیں اور ان کے خلاف منظم یوجائیں۔ آج ایک نہیں بلکہ ھر روز نہ جانے کتنی ملالہ مختلف شکلوں میں ان درندوں کی بھینٹ چڑھ رہی ھیں ۔
(فرحت عباس شاہ)

شہر کے قتل میں مرے نزدیک
شہر والے سبھی ملوث ھیں

[!~*SOoLi]

یہ سانحہ بہت افسوس ناک ہے۔۔ اور بحثیت پاکستانی ہم پر فرض سے کہ اس بچی پر قاتلانہ حملے کے مقاصد جانیں۔۔ ہمارے لیے یہ گمنام دشمن گلے میں اٹکے مچھلی کے کانٹے جیسا ہوگیا ہے،۔۔
اللہ سے دعا ہے کہ اس چھپے ہوئے دشمن کی شناخت ہوجائے

[life]

very nice sharing..

Allah is bachi ko sehat e kamla ata fermaye Ameen.
par buhat se sawal aise hain ju zehan main atke huye hain..
Allah hum sab par meharban ho Aameen..

[beyond_vision]

یہ سانحہ بہت افسوس ناک ہے۔۔ اور بحثیت پاکستانی ہم پر فرض سے کہ اس بچی پر قاتلانہ حملے کے مقاصد جانیں۔۔ ہمارے لیے یہ گمنام دشمن گلے میں اٹکے مچھلی کے کانٹے جیسا ہوگیا ہے،۔۔
اللہ سے دعا ہے کہ اس چھپے ہوئے دشمن کی شناخت ہوجائے

Jee Bilkul Durust farmaya aapnay Lekin Is Chupay hooay Dushman Ki Shanakat hi sab se Mushkil Marhala hay Kiun K Dushman Hamari Hi Safo'n Main chupay bhaithai'n hain. Hum sabko Bahasiyat-e-Koam is waqt apne Aapas k Gilay-o-Kadurat ko mita kar is Dushman ki talassh karni chahiye! :)

[beyond_vision]

very nice sharing..

Allah is bachi ko sehat e kamla ata fermaye Ameen.
par buhat se sawal aise hain ju zehan main atke huye hain..
Allah hum sab par meharban ho Aameen..

Bohat Shukriya Life sis! :)
Ameen aur jee han aap ne baja farmaya K Yeh Wakaiya, bohat se sawalaat Ko Ubhaarta hay Jinka Hum sabko jawab talaash karne ki koshish karni chahiye.
Ameen to your Dua! :)

[Shaam]

Assalam Alaikum


aap ne acha likha
lekin
aap ki tehreer sei mujhey malala sei hamdardi tou nazar arahi hai jo ke honi bhi chaiye
lekin is ke baad
aisa lagraha hai jaisey aap hamarei 90% logo ki tarha confuse hain ke yah kis ki harkat hai
kaun is ke peechey hain
kis ke kia maqasid hain
kio horaha hai kio hua
aap thora sa apna maqaff aur wazay karsakeingi ?

[beyond_vision]

Assalam Alaikum


aap ne acha likha
lekin
aap ki tehreer sei mujhey malala sei hamdardi tou nazar arahi hai jo ke honi bhi chaiye
lekin is ke baad
aisa lagraha hai jaisey aap hamarei 90% logo ki tarha confuse hain ke yah kis ki harkat hai
kaun is ke peechey hain
kis ke kia maqasid hain
kio horaha hai kio hua
aap thora sa apna maqaff aur wazay karsakeingi ?

Jee First of all, Yeh meri Tehreer nahi hay! :) Yeh Farhat Abbass Shah ka Likha hooa aik Column hay Jo Main Ne Parha and I kind of agreed to it Therefore decided to share it! :)
Jee Is Tehreer main Isi baat ki Nishandahi ki gayi hay Nodoubt Whatever happened with Malala was utter cruelty and was abominable Lekin This is not something new. These are the incidents which have happened in past also and still are happening so what we need to do is to find out the purposes and people behind that. Mujrim siraf aik nahi, Its a while mindset, a whole group who r present in every domain of our society. The enemy is frm within us. So If we want a permanent solution to such events, we wud need to find out those black sheep among us! :)
I hope Ab yeh Tehreer aap k liye Wazeh Ho hayi ho!
If u still have any question, u r more than welcome to ask them! :)
Stay Blessed! :)

[Shaam]

Jee First of all, Yeh meri Tehreer nahi hay! :) Yeh Farhat Abbass Shah ka Likha hooa aik Column hay Jo Main Ne Parha and I kind of agreed to it Therefore decided to share it! :)
Jee Is Tehreer main Isi baat ki Nishandahi ki gayi hay Nodoubt Whatever happened with Malala was utter cruelty and was abominable Lekin This is not something new. These are the incidents which have happened in past also and still are happening so what we need to do is to find out the purposes and people behind that. Mujrim siraf aik nahi, Its a while mindset, a whole group who r present in every domain of our society. The enemy is frm within us. So If we want a permanent solution to such events, we wud need to find out those black sheep among us! :)
I hope Ab yeh Tehreer aap k liye Wazeh Ho hayi ho!
If u still have any question, u r more than welcome to ask them! :)
Stay Blessed! :)

ok thanks for clarification..........
now on what criteria we are going to find that hidden enemy....
is their anyway when we does not trust our rulers and at the same time we accept and even agree on whatever statement they issue after such incident....
or are we going to trust our media ? which undoubtedly is biased and working for some significant goal....
or are we going to workout it ourself ? going to those areas and and identifying the ground realities and then make our mind and work for some cause....
or writing a confusing column is well enough......


there are a few questions which i guess needs to answer by anyone clearly....


1- Who is malala and why he was famous for?
2- Why only malala was targeted? what benefit will anybody can have by her death?
3- Who can get the maximum benefit out of it ?
4- Why media is screaming on this incident who never care about 50000 ppl death in drone attacks and whateve is happening in sham and what happened in Myanmar?
5- Is something similar happened previously that made a cause of some action or operation?
6- What international policies and politics and ways of doing things like it? and

WHO AND HOW WE WILL DECIDE WHAT IS WRONG AND WHAT IS RIGHT ? IS THERE ANY CRITERIA OR CODE OF COMMON LAW?

[beyond_vision]

ok thanks for clarification..........
now on what criteria we are going to find that hidden enemy....
is their anyway when we does not trust our rulers and at the same time we accept and even agree on whatever statement they issue after such incident....
or are we going to trust our media ? which undoubtedly is biased and working for some significant goal....
or are we going to workout it ourself ? going to those areas and and identifying the ground realities and then make our mind and work for some cause....
or writing a confusing column is well enough......


there are a few questions which i guess needs to answer by anyone clearly....


1- Who is malala and why he was famous for?
2- Why only malala was targeted? what benefit will anybody can have by her death?
3- Who can get the maximum benefit out of it ?
4- Why media is screaming on this incident who never care about 50000 ppl death in drone attacks and whateve is happening in sham and what happened in Myanmar?
5- Is something similar happened previously that made a cause of some action or operation?
6- What international policies and politics and ways of doing things like it? and

WHO AND HOW WE WILL DECIDE WHAT IS WRONG AND WHAT IS RIGHT ? IS THERE ANY CRITERIA OR CODE OF COMMON LAW?

Some Excellent Questions Raised By u! :)
I for sure have not answers to all of your questions but I can give it a try.
Criteria to find hidden enemy:
Common sense and logic and seeing between the lines. Doign research, learning in depth abt the issues and judging by ourselves regarding what is right and wrong.
U rightfully pointed out that Gov has lost trust and Media is also very biased.
So we have to be really careful when making our judgements regarding certain things.
As to ur Questions abt her Biodata and the Bigger Scheme of the things, I wud say Its not very clear for the moment. I've tried to do some research on her and there are controversial and contradictory facts and opnions coming out.
All I've able to gather for now is that Malala is a girl frm Sawat who was writing a urdu blog on BBC urdu website where she used to write her diary abt her experiences there and how 'Talibaan' has banned certain Schools and Girls were not able to go to schools.
It was not only her, there were 2 other girls names Kaynaat and Shazia who were injured also. Why her? coz she got popular worldwide andhe won some awards also frm Danish and Pakistani gov for the peace.
One other reason why she was controversial was her statment that Burqa and Darhi are like going back to cave era.Though some r saying its not her statment.
In short, u r right that there r many questions which r unclear abt Malala and abt who was against it and all.
The Point of the Column is just to point out abt some hidden enemies. Its up to us to find them Though I know its really hard to do so lekin atleast we shud keep trying to do that if we want our survival! :)

what is right is wrong dependz on many things. These are so broad questions that One can write papers and papers on it. In short can just say that though the Criteria for Right and wrong dependz On us individually, on our circumstances, experiences and all but collectively also it dependz on certain collective and accepted Norms and according to that laws are created. These Norms can fall into Universal norms or certain local or national Norms. The topic is really vast and I understand ur point of asking these questions. That was the very purpose abt posting that column so that atleast one can start thinking abt it and all the factors which can be behind it.
I'm still in the process of doing research on Malala. If I found something more relevent, shall surely share it and u can do the same thing. :)
Thanks Once again for ur Detailed Questions.

[Shaam]

Lets be more specific instead of presenting our broad comments.
First of all i would like to clear that i condemn strongly whatever happened with her and her friends. but now let view something first

A Schoolsgirl's Odyssey (http://www.nytimes.com/video/2009/10/10/world/1247465107008/a-schoolgirl-s-odyssey.html)

I would like you to spend ur 20 mins on this. and think with the mind instead of a mentality.

who made this documentary and why,.... google the director name first and then conclude it ....

now lets move to ur view point......


Some Excellent Questions Raised By u! :)
I for sure have not answers to all of your questions but I can give it a try.
Criteria to find hidden enemy:
Common sense and logic and seeing between the lines. Doign research, learning in depth abt the issues and judging by ourselves regarding what is right and wrong.

Common sense is not so common. and common sense and perception usually made by social influence. the way of thinking of a human living in west must be entirely different who are facing all this in Pakistan. then the social ethical values in a co existing society are quiet different then of people who raised in entirely biased (positive or negative) environment. ok i give a direction. " Think of purposes of religion"


U rightfully pointed out that Gov has lost trust and Media is also very biased.
So we have to be really careful when making our judgements regarding certain things.
As to ur Questions abt her Biodata and the Bigger Scheme of the things, I wud say Its not very clear for the moment. I've tried to do some research on her and there are controversial and contradictory facts and opnions coming out.
All I've able to gather for now is that Malala is a girl frm Sawat who was writing a urdu blog on BBC urdu website where she used to write her diary abt her experiences there and how 'Talibaan' has banned certain Schools and Girls were not able to go to schools.
It was not only her, there were 2 other girls names Kaynaat and Shazia who were injured also. Why her? coz she got popular worldwide andhe won some awards also frm Danish and Pakistani gov for the peace.
One other reason why she was controversial was her statment that Burqa and Darhi are like going back to cave era.Though some r saying its not her statment.
In short, u r right that there r many questions which r unclear abt Malala and abt who was against it and all.
The Point of the Column is just to point out abt some hidden enemies. Its up to us to find them Though I know its really hard to do so lekin atleast we shud keep trying to do that if we want our survival! :)


again its not a issue of a single girl now. its an issue of our existence either we have to be black n white as its happening or there is some gray society exist.

Malala wrote the diary at the age of 11. I read her diary i wont say a girl of that age cant write such things but i would say her thoughts are the result of a certain mind makeup. Even non muslims know why we keep beard and what is the significance or burqa in islam.
again giving u a direction "read the views of ANP and Bacha Khan" one of her role model.



what is right is wrong dependz on many things. These are so broad questions that One can write papers and papers on it. In short can just say that though the Criteria for Right and wrong dependz On us individually, on our circumstances, experiences and all but collectively also it dependz on certain collective and accepted Norms and according to that laws are created. These Norms can fall into Universal norms or certain local or national Norms. The topic is really vast and I understand ur point of asking these questions. That was the very purpose abt posting that column so that atleast one can start thinking abt it and all the factors which can be behind it.
I'm still in the process of doing research on Malala. If I found something more relevent, shall surely share it and u can do the same thing. :)
Thanks Once again for ur Detailed Questions.

now look at the broader pic and see why all this plot manipulated and what will be the results u will be so clear about ur hidden enemy.


Although again emm giving a direction " read predictions of Prophet about these things the enemy will be so clear to u "

[!~*SOoLi]

Is Waqt Aik Momin Kay 2 Kisam K Musalmaan Dushman Hain.. Aik Jo Shariyat Ko Bhula K Apnay Usool Bana Baithay Hain.. Dosra Shariyat Ko Apni Extreamist Soch k Mutabik Dhaal Rahay Hain.. Baki Third Party Wo Hay Jo In 2 Groups Ko Apni Shatranj Ka Mohra Bana K Chaal Chal Rai Hay.. Jis Ka Result Ye Nikal Raha K Ya To islam se badzun Horaha hay Musalmaan.. Ya Phir Wo usi Extream Soch Par Chal raha Hay jo Relegious Extreamist hain.. We are Confused Nation

[!~*SOoLi]

Kasam Kha K Keh Sakta Hun Itni Do Numberi Hay Pakistanio Main.. K Shaitaan B Kahay Ye Mere Ustad.. Jitni B Confusio Phail Chuki Hay ye Humari Baydeeni Hay.. Aur Azab Qaumon Par Ata Hay Aik Banday Par Nai..

[Hayyan_Memon]

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/76643191/mlala%20cia3.jpg
امریکی اخبار نیو یارک ٹائمز کی 2010 کے درمیاں میں بنائی گئی ایک ڈاکیو منٹری میں انکشاف کیا گیا ہے کہ ملا لہ یوسف زئی اور اس کے والد نے پاکستان میں امریکی سفیر، پاکستان کے لئے امریکی نمائندہ خصوصی رچرڈ ہالبروک اور امریکی وزیر خارجہ اور اعلی امریکی فوجی افسران سے خفیہ ملاقاتیں کی تھیں جن میں ان سے درخواست کی گئی تھی کہ وہ سوات میں فوجی آپریشن کو یقینی بنائیں تاکہ وہاں سے طالبان کا صفایا کیا جا سکے۔ اور اس کے جواب میں امریکی فوجی حکام حیرت زدہ ہو کر س بات کی تصدیق کررہے ہیں کہ کیا واقعہ ملالہ اور اس کے والد سوات سے ہی تعلق رکھتے ہیں اور اس کے باوجود امریکی حامی ہیں۔ نیو یارک ٹائمز کی تیار کردہ اس ڈاکیو منٹری کا دورانیہ 32منٹ کا ہے اور اس میں ایک چھوٹا ساکلپ دکھایا گیا ہے جس میں ملالہ اور اس کے والد امریکی فوجی اعلی عہدے داروں سے ملاقات میں پاکستان میں فوجی آپریشن کا تقاضا کررہے ہین جب کہ جواب مین انہیں بتایا جا رہا ہے کہ وہ اس سلسلے میں کام کررہے ہین اور صدر اوباما نے اس سلسلے میں پاکستان پر اربوں ڈالر خرچ کئے ہیں۔

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یہ ڈاکیو مینٹری نیو یارک ٹائمز کے ایک یہودی فلم میکر ایڈم ایلائیک نے تیار کی تھی اور وہ سوات آپریشن کے دوران ملالہ کے خاندان کے ساتھ ہی رہا تھا۔ اس ڈاکیو مینٹری کا نام رکھا گیا تھا، ایک اسکول گرل کی مہم جوئی۔ بعد مین اس فلم کے حصے الجزیرہ نے بھی جولائی 2010 کو نشر کئے اور نیو یارک ٹائمز نے بھی اس ویڈیو کو اسی دوران اپنی ویب سائٹ پر نشر کیا۔ اس فلم میں دکھایا گیا ہے کہ سوات سے دہشت گردوں کا قبضہ ختم کرنے کے لئے فوجی آپریشن میں اہم کردار ملالہ نے ادا کیا تھا اور اس سلسلے مین امریکیوں سے مدد لی تھی۔

[Hayyan_Memon]

THIS IS JUST FOR YOU PPLZ TO OPEN UR EYEZ AND THINK BEFORE YOU SAY SOMETHING


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[Emaan Chaudhery]

SamJh Nahii Aaa Rahii Kya ReaLity Haii ..
Am Damn! COnfused :(

[beyond_vision]

Lets be more specific instead of presenting our broad comments.
First of all i would like to clear that i condemn strongly whatever happened with her and her friends. but now let view something first

A Schoolsgirl's Odyssey (http://www.nytimes.com/video/2009/10/10/world/1247465107008/a-schoolgirl-s-odyssey.html)

I would like you to spend ur 20 mins on this. and think with the mind instead of a mentality.

who made this documentary and why,.... google the director name first and then conclude it ....

now lets move to ur view point......

Hmmm, Jee I've seen the documentary. It was made in 2009 By an American Journaliste who happen to work for Washington Post also and cover the stories of Afghanistan, Pakistan and New York and Seattle also! :) What does that prove? A documentary made by American Jouraliste and director? One logical explaination to that can be that Perhaps the diary or blog of Malala got International recognition and thus a Journaliste wanted to made the documentary abt that courageous girl. I'm sure How you wold like to see that documentary?


Common sense is not so common. and common sense and perception usually made by social influence. the way of thinking of a human living in west must be entirely different who are facing all this in Pakistan. then the social ethical values in a co existing society are quiet different then of people who raised in entirely biased (positive or negative) environment. ok i give a direction. " Think of purposes of religion"

Jee Bilkul I agree with you to a large extent on common sense being not common and on differentiation of views according to social influences but with due respect Hazrat, In my opinion, there are some norms which transcends the national boundries and are considered as being universal. The right to have education, the right to live without violence etc. These Norms are not subject to only one society or religion. They are present in every society and religion. :)

again its not a issue of a single girl now. its an issue of our existence either we have to be black n white as its happening or there is some gray society exist.

Malala wrote the diary at the age of 11. I read her diary i wont say a girl of that age cant write such things but i would say her thoughts are the result of a certain mind makeup. Even non muslims know why we keep beard and what is the significance or burqa in islam.
again giving u a direction "read the views of ANP and Bacha Khan" one of her role model.


Hmmm, Even if we Accept your point of view that her thoughts are result of some "mind setup". Then also, it raises the question that why such "mindset" was created? If we accept that she had the extremist views even then sir it begs the question that howcome these extremist views were emerged and engraved in her memory? for sure, it was due to the brutality of the Talibaans and they to be blamed in all that.
Abt her role Models, I guess she mentionned Benazir Bhutto and President Obama also along with Bacha Khan. As for its regarding why she chose Bacha khan as her role model. This can be understood with her affiliation with Afghanistan and not necessarily anti Pakistan! :)

now look at the broader pic and see why all this plot manipulated and what will be the results u will be so clear about ur hidden enemy.


Although again emm giving a direction " read predictions of Prophet about these things the enemy will be so clear to u "

So, If I'm understand u well, u r putting the blame on America, Israel etc ? Even if its true then also It begs the question that Howcome they were able to penetrate that deep into Pakistani society. One answer can be coz gov supported them or is inefficient or is helpless and has got no other resort. If we accept that reality, then also Hazrat, we must account our own people also who supported in that process. There are for sure the black sheep among us who sometimes on the name of religion, sometimes on name of nationalism, sometimes on the name of linguistic queries try to create a fuss and conflict among us. They are no doubt accountable for divding us into somany different categories that today we are unable to concentrate on our real and national issues and instead are wasting our time in trivial and outsider's problems.
U completly have the right to disagree with me! After all, we are all entitled to have our own free opinions and I completly respect your right to do so! :)

[beyond_vision]

Is Waqt Aik Momin Kay 2 Kisam K Musalmaan Dushman Hain.. Aik Jo Shariyat Ko Bhula K Apnay Usool Bana Baithay Hain.. Dosra Shariyat Ko Apni Extreamist Soch k Mutabik Dhaal Rahay Hain.. Baki Third Party Wo Hay Jo In 2 Groups Ko Apni Shatranj Ka Mohra Bana K Chaal Chal Rai Hay.. Jis Ka Result Ye Nikal Raha K Ya To islam se badzun Horaha hay Musalmaan.. Ya Phir Wo usi Extream Soch Par Chal raha Hay jo Relegious Extreamist hain.. We are Confused Nation

Kasam Kha K Keh Sakta Hun Itni Do Numberi Hay Pakistanio Main.. K Shaitaan B Kahay Ye Mere Ustad.. Jitni B Confusio Phail Chuki Hay ye Humari Baydeeni Hay.. Aur Azab Qaumon Par Ata Hay Aik Banday Par Nai..

Hmmm, Thanks for sharing your thoughts first of all on the issue! :)
Jee han, No doubt K hum Aik Confused Nation K Tamaam Tar Charateristics par Pooray Utarte hain. Lekin in my humble opinion being confused is not such a bad thing. Ab is Situation main Do Scenarios Mumkin hain. First yeh K Shayad Before that phase of confusion, we were living in the phase of self-denial which was even more dangerous. So now if we are moving towards being Confused it means, we have atleast started thinking that something is going terribly wrong.
Second Scenario Thora dark hay aur woh yeh hay K Aisa bhi Mumkin hay K Hum is Self-Denial aur Confusion ki phase se nikal kar Kahin Stagnation phase main na reh jayein jahan hum Bilkul Phans jayein aur Na Aagay janay ka raasta rahay aur na peechay Murne ka!
So I guess this confusion Phase is where we have to take some bold steps and try not to get Stagnated on any spot.
Its a long discussion. InshAllah shall try to write more abt it some other time! :)

[beyond_vision]

THIS IS JUST FOR YOU PPLZ TO OPEN UR EYEZ AND THINK BEFORE YOU SAY SOMETHING


May I Knindly Know sir, you are addressing to whom in such a manner? :)
Aapki Baato'n ka jawab Main is Sawal ki explaination ho janay k baad doon gi! :)

[Shaam]

Hmmm, Jee I've seen the documentary. It was made in 2009 By an American Journaliste who happen to work for Washington Post also and cover the stories of Afghanistan, Pakistan and New York and Seattle also! :) What does that prove? A documentary made by American Jouraliste and director? One logical explaination to that can be that Perhaps the diary or blog of Malala got International recognition and thus a Journaliste wanted to made the documentary abt that courageous girl. I'm sure How you wold like to see that documentary?




Jee Bilkul I agree with you to a large extent on common sense being not common and on differentiation of views according to social influences but with due respect Hazrat, In my opinion, there are some norms which transcends the national boundries and are considered as being universal. The right to have education, the right to live without violence etc. These Norms are not subject to only one society or religion. They are present in every society and religion. :)



Hmmm, Even if we Accept your point of view that her thoughts are result of some "mind setup". Then also, it raises the question that why such "mindset" was created? If we accept that she had the extremist views even then sir it begs the question that howcome these extremist views were emerged and engraved in her memory? for sure, it was due to the brutality of the Talibaans and they to be blamed in all that.
Abt her role Models, I guess she mentionned Benazir Bhutto and President Obama also along with Bacha Khan. As for its regarding why she chose Bacha khan as her role model. This can be understood with her affiliation with Afghanistan and not necessarily anti Pakistan! :)



So, If I'm understand u well, u r putting the blame on America, Israel etc ? Even if its true then also It begs the question that Howcome they were able to penetrate that deep into Pakistani society. One answer can be coz gov supported them or is inefficient or is helpless and has got no other resort. If we accept that reality, then also Hazrat, we must account our own people also who supported in that process. There are for sure the black sheep among us who sometimes on the name of religion, sometimes on name of nationalism, sometimes on the name of linguistic queries try to create a fuss and conflict among us. They are no doubt accountable for divding us into somany different categories that today we are unable to concentrate on our real and national issues and instead are wasting our time in trivial and outsider's problems.
U completly have the right to disagree with me! After all, we are all entitled to have our own free opinions and I completly respect your right to do so! :)

its not about agreeing or disagreeing on such statement...
look i raised in pakistan fine... not in any well developed society but always studied in a co education schools , engineering colleges and then had master and doing doctorate from the same schools.
but fortunately something turned into my life that my prospective view to see the things is what has been told by us from our creator. i relates everything with the actions of prophet and his companion and obviously whateve has been said in Quran.

I am done with this discussion after this post after seeing a word TALIBAN Brutality.....
i only request to ask this question from sister Yvone Ridley that how brutal the Talibans are in real not from the media and stories which comes to u.
moreover i would like o say bacha khan has nothing with the afghanistan of today but yeah with the communist afghanistan.
third as far as Barack Obama is concerned so liking him after viewing the peace efforts from Iraq to Philistine to Afghanistan to the North Pakistan and ppl in Guantan mobe i would say that its a war of islam not of peace or terrorism. i have 100s of examples which i can quote according to Quran and Hadith then according to realities but for those only for those who wanna think and have courage to decide what is right and what is wrong even it doesnt goes in our favor.

[ĶįňĢ őf ĻōVęŘ]

Very nice sharing....
:allah: us bachi ko sehat atta farmaye.....
aur hmesha :allah: us bachi ko apny hifz o emaan me rakhy....
Ameen.....

[beyond_vision]

I am done with this discussion after this post after seeing a word TALIBAN Brutality.....


With Due Respect Hazrat, I'm very disappointed after seeing that statment. :) U might be a lot more knowledgeable compared to me in both the education field (pursuing doctorates compared to me being still an undergraduate student) and in the Islamic education (Knowning far better the Quran and hadith than me), But in my humble opinion Hazrat, Discussion, argument and contradiction of opinions and thoughts are all the tools through which one might be able to reach on some consensus.
I would have l0ved to have a discussion and thus be able to learn more from your knowledge and wisdom, but your above mentioned statment clearly shows that you have made a certain mindset and now any opinion or talk which would be different from your view will be blocked and will not be answered.
So In all that situation, I guess whatever I'll present or say will not be seen with an open mind but shall be judged according to a preconcieved notion. So I shall also cut the discussion here and would allow you the freedom to remain according to your mindset and opinions. :)

[beyond_vision]

Sharing Pasand karne ka Shukriya king of l0ver! :)

[!~*SOoLi]

Aik Ayat Parh K Dil Ko Bohat Sukoon Milta Hay..

اور سارے معاملات کا آخری فیصلہ اللہ کے ہاتھ میں ہے - القرآن، سورۃ لقمان

Kafi Lambi Debates Thi Magar Mein Kisi K Views Say Bhi Agree Nahi Karta.. Aur Ab Mera Dil Bhi Nai Karta Kuch Bolnay Ko.. :o

[Shaam]

With Due Respect Hazrat, I'm very disappointed after seeing that statment. :) U might be a lot more knowledgeable compared to me in both the education field (pursuing doctorates compared to me being still an undergraduate student) and in the Islamic education (Knowning far better the Quran and hadith than me), But in my humble opinion Hazrat, Discussion, argument and contradiction of opinions and thoughts are all the tools through which one might be able to reach on some consensus.
I would have l0ved to have a discussion and thus be able to learn more from your knowledge and wisdom, but your above mentioned statment clearly shows that you have made a certain mindset and now any opinion or talk which would be different from your view will be blocked and will not be answered.
So In all that situation, I guess whatever I'll present or say will not be seen with an open mind but shall be judged according to a preconcieved notion. So I shall also cut the discussion here and would allow you the freedom to remain according to your mindset and opinions. :)

Well ! thats the only reason i was here to discuss. but calling someone brutal is pointing towards a already mature thought which has taken its decision about certain ppl..

anyway Allah knows better: )

[beyond_vision]

Well ! thats the only reason i was here to discuss. but calling someone brutal is pointing towards a already mature thought which has taken its decision about certain ppl..

anyway Allah knows better: )

Hmmmm, I still hold to my used word as there is proper evidence which shows that unfortunately this is the case. TTP has accepted their direct involvement with Malala's attack and have even warned that the attack can be repeated if she'll survive. So while having all that in mind, I don't see any reason to not call those acts and the people committing those acts as "Brutal". :)

I'll also like to sum up the Discussion on the point that Allah Knows Better and May Allah enlighten us all! :)

[beyond_vision]

Aik Ayat Parh K Dil Ko Bohat Sukoon Milta Hay..

اور سارے معاملات کا آخری فیصلہ اللہ کے ہاتھ میں ہے - القرآن، سورۃ لقمان

Kafi Lambi Debates Thi Magar Mein Kisi K Views Say Bhi Agree Nahi Karta.. Aur Ab Mera Dil Bhi Nai Karta Kuch Bolnay Ko.. :o

I guess we can say that its a nice way to sum up the conversation! :)

Aur, Aapka Views se Agree na karna Koyi nayi baat nahi hay. Aur Agar Kuch na Bolne se Kuch Faida hota hay tou I guess we shud all follow that! :)

[Shaam]

: ) ..........

[!~*SOoLi]

TTP Ka Agenda Kya Hay.. Ye Group Kahan Se Aya.. Kis School Of Thought Se Belong Karta Hay.. Ye Media Kay Samnay Apni Baygunahi Kio Nai Paish Kartay.. Agar Kisi Blast Main ya Kisi Murder Main Qasoorwaar Hain To Akay Apni Daleel Kio Nahi Paish Kartay.. Ye Sub Sawalaat Hain Jinki Wala se Mein Blank hun Talibaan aur Malala k Muamlay Main..

[ammarsaeedpk1]

zindaabd shag slamat rahen yehi haqeeqat hai

[beyond_vision]

TTP Ka Agenda Kya Hay.. Ye Group Kahan Se Aya.. Kis School Of Thought Se Belong Karta Hay.. Ye Media Kay Samnay Apni Baygunahi Kio Nai Paish Kartay.. Agar Kisi Blast Main ya Kisi Murder Main Qasoorwaar Hain To Akay Apni Daleel Kio Nahi Paish Kartay.. Ye Sub Sawalaat Hain Jinki Wala se Mein Blank hun Talibaan aur Malala k Muamlay Main..

Hmmm Jee Main aap se Mutaafik hoon (Atleast I do agree sometimes) K yeh Tamaam sawal bohat Pecheeda hain aur confusion ka Bayes ban rahay hain aur is confusion ko doorkarne k liye is sawalo'n ka jawab Jaan'na bohat zaroori ho gaya hay.! :)

[vergil]

No Doubt Attack on Malala is a bad thing but Shes not the only important person in the World or Pakistan for dat matter. Drone Attacks mai Kitny Masom loug roz marty hain. Magr media kabhi itny zor shor say is matter ko nahi chrhata aor is malala Matter pay asman sir pay utha lia hay. There is something Fishy bout it. N I dun like dat a Bit.

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[RiyazA]

Main ne kaheen jagon par yahee dekha hai ke log drone attacks ko is attack se compare kar rahe hain magar aisa soch main kuch problems hai. Pehla to yeh ke jab drone attacks hote hain kisi ko pata nahin chalta ke kaun maara gaya kyon ke maare hue logon ke saathi wahan phonch jaate hain aur lashon ko apne saath le jaate hain jis ka matlab yeh ho sakta hain ke jo log maare gaye, waqaee shaddat pasand grohon se taluq rakhte the aur koi journalist ko bhee us hamla ke jagah pe jaane ka ijaazat nahin hai. Dosra baat yeh ke Malala par hamla drone se koi taluq nahin rakhta aur TTP ne Malala ko is lye nishana banaya kyone ke woh TTP ki ideology ko jin main aurton ka koi awaaz aur choice nahin hai, challenge de dee aur yeh to hum saalon se dekhte aa rahain hain ke Taliban ko challenge dena apne zindagee se haath dhona hai. Allah karein ke hum sub main Malala jaisa jurrat mile jo hum bhee aise shaddat pasandon ke aage apne aawaz utha sakein. W-al-salaam.

[~!~hasnain~!~]

such bat kahi ap ne.... Allah ham sub ko sedhi rah dikhaey....................